Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Freezer]

@ Freezer:
Really?  Man, I am disappointed.  I thought it said like 89 vdc.  Maybe a typo on their part then.  Too bad.  I was getting really excited.

Bill

That would've been nice to get 90 volts hehe, but that would be too easy. 
I added some plates in 3 planter pots, to the 3 cells I had in the ground, and am getting about 3.2 volts dc, and about 3mA.  I mounted a blue led on a rod just to have it going as long as it lasts.  Not much so far, but the cells add up much better when Isolated of course.

[jeanna]

Good going Freezer!
So, would you please be more specific? Like added 3 pots so a total of 4 in series? And the blue light. very nice. Blue wants more volts n amps, I think.

@Bill. I remember the picture, I forgot whose picture it was. I apologise.  I don't think you get that snow eating fog that Joe will soon get. Maybe you will know when the sap is beginning. (It is a long time before any buds show up.)

@All   I've been starting to think that those beer cans are the wound part of the battery that is the picture that Hans just reposted for us. The one with is it 5 rows of coiled wire with layers of cloth in between? Maybe not. I have seen the drawing looking very long. There is something about the drawing that looks just like the top part of those things with the globe and hemisphere 'resonators'.


jeanna

[Freezer]

Good going Freezer!
So, would you please be more specific? Like added 3 pots so a total of 4 in series? And the blue light. very nice. Blue wants more volts n amps, I think.
jeanna

I have 3 regular cells in the dirt in series added to the ones in the 3 pots. The ones in the ground are zinc sheet rolled into a tube with graphite rods inside.  Then I just stuck some zinc and carbon rods in pots.  I think the more you add the less increase you get.  I think to get 12 volts, you need about 25-30 isolated cells.  I think you are right that the cool end of the led spectrum takes a little more that the warm color temperature leds.  I think to at least get some usable lighting using leds, you need something like a 3-5 watt led.  Thats gonna take quite a bit of milliamps.

[tinu]

Hi everyone,

I?d like to hereby submit a very small contribution that I consider it might lead to something.

A bit of intro for the beginning:
I?ve watched the general evolution of this thread and look forward. It happened that electrochemistry was at some point brought into discussion and some nice experiments were conducted by Jeanna on Al-NaCl-Ag battery. It also happened that a close friend of mine was asking for a little help in preparing her MSc graduation and final dissertation paper. The work is customary to be often only theoretical but I thought a little bit of practical hand-on approach can help.

To make the story short, in connection with free energy, I was also long having in mind digging on cheap batteries (recovered Al being one of promising candidates) and it was just the right conjecture to do something about.
Unfortunately, I don?t have access to a chemistry lab (I?m physicist) but fortunately after surprisingly few crude home-made experiments, I found what I consider is worthy to be eventually further explored. Here it is:

Starting from the concept of Al-air battery, I ended with an Al-NaOH-MnO2-Graphite battery.
NaOH was impure (taken from commercial chemicals) and it may contain some additives contributing to the outcome.

What I firstly found as relevant was an initial voltage in excess of 2V (2.1 and over, actually) which is high for a crude battery and quite promising as a start. Remember that Zn-carbon is having around 1.6V and not many batteries go close to 2V or beyond. Unfortunately the voltage was dropping in time. For the time being I can not say if voltage dropping can be countered but I guess it may be hope.

What I secondly found also very promising was a short circuit sustainable current of about 18mA. Al active surface was less than 6cm2 (quite small), height less than .5cm (all layers) and so a small total volume.

Overall power is not yet significant (several mW only) because voltage and current given above were not simultaneous (current was measured on short) but I could let the battery on short for 10+hrs and still find it delivering around 10mA (subject to fluctuations mainly due to mechanical vibration/movement and electrolyte evaporation) . After removing the short load (around 10ohm), the battery is quickly recovering to 1.3-1.4V which is also not very bad considering the chemical pollution with by-products, an issue that was not addressed.
During tests was easy to notice that there are some intriguing transients (observable at all times) both in voltage and current that indicate the setup has to be carefully clean out of un-desired mechanical factors and of chemical perturbations but from those transients and from the whole behavior I?d say it transpires that maybe there is room for great improvements.

Now, I?ll continue with some experiments but for the moment I have to take care of several real-life issues. Tests are messy (that?s for sure, if anyone asks) and beyond some point it will probably need a lab. I wonder if someone would be interested.

Cheers,
Tinu


P.S. Sorry for interfering into the middle of Stubblefield discussion.

[MrSpates]

I was curious as to wheather the earth capacitor would really work as claimed 89v from 5 windings on a 7 inch core, so I wrote the company and asked. This was the reply I got:

                                                                                                  In reply to the e-mail you sent us below...
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention.  It has been many years since I have worked on this project. I have discovered many odd
and amazing things that work, but should not. I can not remember the 5 layer earth cap outputing 89 vdc,  I am sure this is a typo error.
It no dougbt is about 1 volt or less.  I do remember making something very similar to this with many layers and the voltage went very high.
I did not make notes of what I did and forgot,  I since then have been trying to figure out what it was I did do get me so high of a voltage
and amperage rating.  I am sure it was not the 5 layer method. I did something differant to the coils and layers?? I wish I could remember,
I can not believe I was so busy I did not make notes.

Thank you
David Waggoner
Research and Development