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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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Pirate88179

@ Jeanna:

Plain iron wire.  I still have a short so, no effect of any kind is noticed.  I am still letting it dry out but, I am going to start another coil anyway.

@ Joe:

Yes, the mapp gas should be hot enough.  I may have to give that a try.  That way, I can clean and re-use the copper wire from my "salted" experiment if it does not come back.  I have 2 soldering irons, one for small work and one large weller for big stuff.  Gets hot but probably not hot enough for the iron wire.  I guess I could do a mechanical splice but I didn't want to mess up the symmetry of the windings.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 06, 2008, 02:33:11 PM
@ Jeanna:

Plain iron wire.  I still have a short so, no effect of any kind is noticed.  I am still letting it dry out but, I am going to start another coil anyway.
Bill
Cool, so if we check with a compass after we wind each row, we should have a good check for any shorts!
jeanna

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 06, 2008, 11:53:52 AM

Does anyone know if the iron wire can be soldered?  If so, then I can "join" the wires when I run out to another spool of fresh wire.  I know you can solder to galvanized nails as I have already done that. (Didn't know it until I tried)  I know it can be brazed, but I have no equipment here for doing that.

Bill

There are several ways to do it, silver solder works fine but you need a torch, as a soldering iron does not get hot enough. You can also use lead-tin solder but you must use an acid based flux such as plumbers use.

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Pirate88179

@ Hans:

Excellent!  Thank you.  I have plumbing solder and the appropriate flux as well.  I will give that a shot.


@ Jeanna:

I would not rely on that method to determine shorts.  My cell is drying out and it now moves the compass needle, but I still have 1 short left.  The better way, at least the way I have been using, is to check for continuity as you go, between cu and fe and each lead and the core.  Hope this helps.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 06, 2008, 05:30:42 PM
My cell is drying out and it now moves the compass needle, but I still have 1 short left.  The better way, at least the way I have been using, is to check for continuity as you go, between cu and fe and each lead and the core.  Hope this helps.

Bill
oh of course,
next ?:
If the metal wires are so close that they will short out when they get wet, can you tell in advance by checking for continuity? I think it is curoius that your cell will only? short when wet.

The other thing I keep thinking about regarding wetness in this device is that it must be moist, but the outside must be protected with  celluoid or mica.

I assume he is protecting it from excess water. Althiugh probably not an enemy of electric field, water and moisture is an enemy of static electricity. That is my reason for assuming NS is protecting the whole device from water, (like drenching rain) It makes me think this spark idea is right on.

@all,

I also am thinking the 2 terminals called 10 are antennas. He never connects them at all in the patent, in fact he says they must be kept separate to preserve the character of the electrodes. Well yea but these electrodes aren't touching anything. The earth is on the other end.?? Just a thought.  -- But I guess this thought is the reason I was thinking you would be sparking the terminals called 10 since it is here that the process seems to begin- or begin again in the self sustaining action.
jeanna