Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

@Bill,
I guess I will use the red since it is longer. It is sooooo thin. 30 gauge slips through the aligator teeth on the clips.
I'm gonna try to make a sleeve out of a bottle to make it closer than the 1 1/4" inch candelabra form I used before. It will have a taped seam, but I guess closer fitting will induce more magnetism.

What did you do for your secondary? (I don't remember many details from the coils people made.)

Lots to do.

Thanks,

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

I am in a financial situation that, at the moment, will not allow me to purchase any wire or other experimental materials.  I have not yet wound or attempted a secondary.  But, I will.  That is why I have not buried my coil yet because I don't want to have to clean it off and then wrap the secondary.  A few more cases have come in and, hopefully, I will be back to experimentation.  I can't wait.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

@ All:

I took apart a vibrating toothbrush and salvaged the tiny motor from it.  It operates on a AAA battery and seems to run forever.  I am going to try to run it from my multiple cells outside and my new NS cell/s.  This might be a good candidate for our make/break motor.  I will keep all posted on this.  I am pretty sure the vibrating razors also use this same motor.  It is a tiny motor that has a weight off center to make the vibrations.  We could easily remove the weight and use it to pulse our secondaries.  If I can run this motor outside, which I should be able to do based on the numbers, I think that would be cool.  If it works, I will make another video.  Just passing this on.

Bill

[jeanna]

Has anyone gotten anything to run off the secondary of this NS coil?

I just wound my secondary with 394 turns. I was planning to match the primary which has 360, but it was almost out so I finished the spool with 394. Also, I used the 1 1/4 in diam plastic tube for a candelabra.

Primary has
360 copper wire winds and
360 iron wire winds

Secondary has
394 winds of 30 gauge copper mag (varnished) wire.



I checked the resistance of the primary
copper is around 1.7 ohms and the
iron about 7.5 ohms.
the resistance of the secondary is around 28 ohms.

My assumption is that if the galvanic action produces a voltage of .7vdc in 5,6 then if I put a known battery voltage across the 10's it might send charge out the 5,6 terminals in a way that is similar.

The battery has 2.65 vdc attached at the 10's

I connected a cap and tiny motor in series to the secondary. nothing moved.

I attached the secondary to the 5,6 terminals just to see what would happen, the voltage showed 1.76vdc and it went down to 17vdc.

The motor started to jit back and forth.

The cap definitely filled up because when I checked later, it was full.

Later, in a sort of make and break I snapped the battery in and out of place. It sometimes turned on the motor. Once the motor was on it went for a while, then the voltage went too low and it stopped.

So, if the motor is on just the secondary, nothing happens. Sometimes a capacitor helps.

I hit the 5,6 together a few times with the motor on the secondary. nothing happened and anyway the amperage read 1.6 uA. - pretty minor.

Its lights out time and I am tired. I will try more tomorrow.
Any ideas?

jeanna

[Localjoe]

@jeanna

Why would it move? I don't think anyone here is even close to being ready to use any kind of AC off the secondary.I applaud your effort but slow down a bit.  To put it in perspective remember two things.  Putting power into terminals 10 is not a good idea when using the ns earth battery design.It will do harm to your primary wires if there moist.

If your just doing bench tests tho with normal insulation and no moist i dont see the harm in putting a battery on the primary wires and then pulsing 5 and 6 on and off. Hans showed a similar exp earlier in the thread.   
In The NS Battery the power is existing in those two wires already once moist.  All that is needed is the make and break. Now with our small coils were not going to see sparks but when we eventually build larger ones i imagine seeing something like shorting a battery wire. The speed you make and break the primary wires 5 and 6 will determine the ac freq like standard us grid is ac 60 hz 120 v.  Thats 60 make and breaks a second. As well, the voltage and current In the secondary will be induced proportional to the existing power in the primary during each on off cycle.

In contrast dc motors don't run well off of ac and a mechanical switching upwards of at least 5 to 10 hz is needed to show noticeable results on the secondary.  -well meter readings at least

Id have to say the main goals right now are

High output on the primary bimetal couple the higher the better current that is the voltage will prob level out.

And an efficent timing/switching mechanism for the terminals 5 and 6

Once we have those completed then we can think about winding a secondary to a certian length(or however you can to start) to be resonatly tuned to the primary circuit(Includes both wires 5 and 6 and the switching mechanism) by measuring the primary bimetal coil's  inductance, finding the primary circuits resonate freq while operating and winding the secondary to a quarter wave or half wavelength classic tesla.  The reason i want a passive rotary spark gap is because it will allow us to change the ac freq output on the secondary by adjusting its speed. 
                                                                                  Joe