Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Localjoe]

You guys minus bill just dont get it

Im not try to start arguments or be condescending.   But since i have solid proof of how this works why not replicate like im telling you and enjoy what i have.  I guess im trying to share too hard because no one seems to listen.

@Gary
    I said the comment about running before walking because i came back after a long weekend to find half shit we  have already figured out and half speculation..

All im saying is i wouldn't have gone to this kind of trouble and to keep this going in this direction if i didnt know what i was doing..

i have a great girl ive been with for 5 years a personal computer buisness and a gaming hobby so yea ive got plenty of other stuff i could be doing but im trying to make a difference here.  The design i describe works end of story it needs to be scaled up and freq tested. its not rocket science and im just trying to explain to folks that are wasting there time winding secondary coils with no timing mechanism on there primarys.. Just trying to save people time and help everyone discover what i have .   So my list is a great place to start if you want results otherwise speculate its no prob but start another thread for the specualtions and keep this one for the updates on the builds this has been said many times before.

                                                                                                                                 Thanks
                                                                                                                                                  Joe

Thanks for your last post i jsut caught it , its more a respect thing and im happy you see... im an anal prick at times because im a computer guy, when i see a path that works i like to stick to it if its reliable.  I guess thats the same logic i let carry through here. 
I know were all here for the same reason but just bear with me in this thread so it doesent get tooo clutterd for newcomers.. imagine what you guys have learend in the past months .. no one wants to read all 46 pages so i guess tahts where im comming from.

[Pirate88179]

@ Gary:

Just tried it with the AA bat. and one lead each.....no reading (0) on both tries.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

@ All:

I think Joe is right.  I started another related topic "Stubblefield coils and speculation" where anyone can discuss whatever may be related to our work in this area.  This way, we can stay on topic over here and not get side tracked from the goals that Joe started.  I see what he is saying and it makes sense.  Who knows?  We may accidentally discover something that will benefit us over here.  Anyone is welcome but please, let's still try to keep the efforts to earth battery systems, Stubblefield coils,etc. or at least things we think might be related in some way.

Joe is right, we need to get the power up on these things.  It was either Sid or Georgemay that had the 80 or so mA's. (I think)  I think this separate topic will help keep the efforts here more streamlined.  See you there, and here.

Bill

[resonanceman]

@ Gary:

Just tried it with the AA bat. and one lead each.....no reading (0) on both tries.

Bill

Thanks  Bill

I  guess the  differences  we are seeing  with this is  because of the way our particular meters are made

So my list is a great place to start if you want results otherwise speculate its no prob but start another thread for the
specualtions and keep this one for the updates on the builds this has been said many times before.

Joe

No problem

I have no  problem  with  respect

This  will be my last post here  until  I  finish  speculating .


gary

[jeanna]

This  will be my last post here  until  I  finish  speculating .


gary

Darn.

That is NOT where this should end!!!

I need the input. Maybe you will continue at Bill's thread. I hope to continue to be able to hear your thoughts. I have had a lot of ideas since you started to post here.

I am in fact NOT able to get the results Joe gets.
I wrote this following post this morning then decided not to post it because Joe might feel offended and maybe I am not doing what he is describing etc.

Here it is:

quote from Joe on feb 1

@All
**The play between the copper and iron wires surrounding the iron core is what produces the effect.. every time i touch my amp meter to it at first it reads between 16- 20 ma... awsome .. but it goes down quick... note well when i take my grnd lead of my meter and touch it on and off on and off of the steel wire it shows the strong 16- 20 reading each time ... so i can see how a spark gap driven by other means could repeat this process much much faster and in turn we would then take the power of the single wire that is called the secondary wrapped around this whole cell #4 which is recieving the flux from the mechanical pulsing of the primary.. .  im thinking the rate at which the spark gap fires the circuit will be the freq of the secondary current, call it pulsed dc or ac at that point.  thats what were going for. And im sure that certain freq/speeds of the gap will yeild far better results in our secondary so lots to play with folks once we get there.

Joe, I just never get antthing more than the same number of amps I get when clipping the ground lead of my meter to the steel wire. In other words, I can get 20 uA from a single wind or 5 mA from a 2 layer wind or ... all the way up to 13mAmps on a 6 layer NS  coil body1, but I never see a pulse that is higher than this. And, I get this number wether I hit it or clip it.

I think this is a big part of my confusion with your thesis.

I am NOT saying your thesis is wrong. I just can't get this part of it to work the way you have described it.

The only time I can get something to drop is when the spike is in the ground and I short the cu5 wire to that spike. Then the voltage drops. If I just hold it , then it seems to cycle. If I clip it the voltage and amperage both drop down to a number that stays there until I UNshort it then it returns to normal.

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If a spark gap that cycles the charge to zero is all there is to this invention,  then I submit that we could take 2 pairs of probes in the ground (cu-zn, cu-zn) and instead of fully connecting them in series, set up a wire that has a very small gap that will short and unshort x times/sec to a series connection and get the same results. Because we know that instead of series giving us an addition, we get zero voltage/amperage. We could set up a lot of these in a parallel way and jiggle the connection with a switch. It may be a thing to try for folks who want to stick metal in the ground and take it into another direction, but IMHO, I think it is more limited than this coiled up thing.



jeanna