Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

Yes, Jeanna had the idea of just using two standard copper pipes of "X" size and placed "X" distance apart on the north/south meridian.  Everyone interested could replicate this and then we can compare measurements of volts and amps.  Also, we would all put them in the ground "X" deep".  This would give us a very good baseline.  PS  Since both pipes are the same material, it would rule out any galvanic action.  Some of us tested this before and you still get vdc, vac and mA's from them.

Bill

[GeoscienceStudent]

Gary:  Bear with me because I'm going to hunt down the shapefiles and then get my minerology book out to add in the major metals/minerals of the types of soils. (they usually say Aridisols  Oxisols, (Al Fe) Alfisols, Ultisols....like that.  I'll post as soon as I can.

Beck

[jeanna]

Now , have any of you done this around something that involves movement and got different readings?  I keep wondering about that tree.  It has sap and water, and osmosis and diffusion involved...  You've got me thinking.

Beck,

Welcome geoscientist!!!

I just moved all my coils to a spot under a tree.

I did not notice anything immediately, and there is a reason for that.
A coil needs to build up something. It will grow for a while then hold and make a daily fluctuation based on some daily parameter(s).

I am watching that too. I don't point out all these things when I make a report cuz there is too much going on, but you can see it, because I do report when a coil is inside and just moved out or added a secondary, etc.

It is buried (not the coil just the info  )in those charts I have been posting.

jeanna

Oh we talked a little about soil types. The thing about it is that the galvanic primary is only the beginning of the real deal here. So, I would rather not focus too much on improving that aspect with more than water since NS himself said his coil doesn't need more than moist. It probably doesn't need more than .7v. That is MY guess about it.

[jeanna]

Gary,

I am  thniking   of a coil  with  the core extending   6 in  or  a foot  out of the bottom .     you could  ram the  end of the  core into the ground ..........   so it looks like  the coil is just sitting on the ground .     .then come back  in a specified  time  and  check  the   voltage on the cap .


We will need quite a few reading  from different  kinds of   rods and coils to  even  have an idea  what kind  of  test works best .    .....or how to start  making a standard measuring probe .

Mine are all sort of like that. That is how I think they are buried. the stake is buried to capture the mag field only in the core piece 1. Right now, they are in fact partially buried because the core piece is too short on most of mine.

What I have noticed over and over is that the amount of moisture in the cloth will create more difference in the voltage than moving it or changing anything else. - by a factor of 10 - (there is a word for this which I need to remember. something like resolution?)

So, even this idea I had, to plant cu pipes and check them is below the range that the moisture alone will change it.

So, I agree we are not far enough along yet to even have a way to standardize ourdelves. Maybe soon we can come up with a coil for everyone to make that is standard??

I think the mag field and the compass might offer something, as Beck, I think, suggested.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Jeanna:

You wrote: "So, even this idea I had, to plant cu pipes and check them is below the range that the moisture alone will change it."

I don't understand what you mean by this?  Below what range?  I thought, and still think, your two copper pipes idea is a very good one.  When I attempted, way, way back when, the two copper pipe method, the soil was very dry and I still got about .7 volts dc.  That is what first convinced me it was not galvanic, it couldn't be.  Maybe, if you mean, you don't get a very good or high enough reading, then this is EXACTLY what your idea would tell us.  Maybe Joe get 2 volts, I get .7 and you get millivolts.  If all done the same, then we can compare.

Sure, later we can "standardize" a coil but a lot more variables with doing that.  Although, I think we should eventually try it.  This way, if Joe got the highest copper pipe readings and then his coil is higher too, we can maybe then assume it has something to do with his area be it the soil, rocks, etc.  My two pipes did not improve with added moisture. (I tried it) That was as it should be if not galvanic.

If I totally misunderstood you, then I am sorry.  I am just a big fan of your idea.

Bill