Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[dllabarre]

@ dllabarre

The gain of a loop antenna is increased as area of loop increases. Something like this would increase area of your loop.

Upon further testing (stimulated by xee2) it appears that 90% of my potential is coming from the wires going from the plates down the pole.
My next test will be to spread the wires as xee2 suggested and measure the potential with and without the aluminum plates connected.

DonL

[t3t4]

@ DonL

Upon further testing (stimulated by xee2) it appears that 90% of my potential is coming from the wires going from the plates down the pole.

Yep, it's pure induction, for some reason plates don't make very good inductors, but wire does.

Thanks for the update.
t3t4

[xee2]

@ dllabarre & t3t4

The plates do not make good inductors, but they do make a capacitor. I suspect that the capacitor is needed in order to make a current loop. A loop antenna works better with the capacitor.

Also, if the power source is magnetic then the magnetic field probably runs north - south. In that case the loop should work better if it is in the east - west direction (perpendicular to magnetic field).

[the_big_m_in_ok]

@ DonL
Yep, it's pure induction, for some reason plates don't make very good inductors, but wire does.
Thanks for the update.
t3t4

Would building or laying a copper wire/rod/pipe grid across a roof help in generating more power?  It would have considerable area covering the whole roof.

--Lee

[t3t4]

@ Xee2

Yeah, that's something I forgot to mention in the spec section of my first experiment. My "V" shaped aerial due to it's shape was pointing at 3 different directions. West, east and south east.

Although I thought the same thing once, that going against the grain (east/west) would be better, I have later found nothing beneficial to speak of by doing so. But give it a try in both directions and note your results. Yeah, I'm one to speak, I don't write anything down myself........ But my next experiment will show the capacitor in the sky effect. This weekend I'll get to that.

@ --Lee

You and Xee2 gave me a very interesting idea. This is something I have never tried, let alone ever thought about. But let me start at the beginning. I too think surface area is important, but have not been able to prove it. I have gone as far as lining the peak of a 100 (?) foot long roof top with stainless steel tin foil. The foil was 12" wide. I was sure this increase in surface are would net me much greater voltage. I was WRONG! But it did server to provide an amusing situation when the wind kicked up!!

But going on the same theory of surface area, what if we built a grid style aerial as Lee suggests? We could obtain surface area without using much space at all. But I can tell you from my experiment, the grid will have to be constructed in such a way as to allow or to force an electron to move in only one direction. I'll explain:

If you swipe a magnet across a wire, you induce an electron flow or a momentary charge. But this energy will not stay in the wire, it want's to move. It's the weaker of all potentials being drawn to the strongest. This wire will have an electron flow on both ends, but with nowhere to go, it simply fly's off when it reaches the end. The electron was not trapped, nor utilized by the wire itself, so the energy is gone. But what if direction of flow doesn't matter? We can force an electron to go anywhere we want by simply changing the potential of the conductor at one point or another.

I do not want to get to far ahead of myself here, this has already worked better then I could have hoped. Your ideas have definitely given me things to think about.

So this would be the basic construction. Make a grid out of whatever, but copper pipe will work very well I think. You should have two layers so as to make a sandwich. The tricky part is, no pipe can physically touch the other, so use PVC or nylon based stand off's. PVC would be ideal since you could gain a little static surface charge as well. This will essentially be like two plates in a sandwich form, but made as a grid using copper pipe. The way you tie it all together "electrically" is by using capacitors.

So picture it like this, a pipe, then a cap, then a pipe, then another cap all tied in series, but formed to create a grid. I don't know if two grids would be best, but that's what I'm thinking anyway. Point is, now your telling the electron exactly where to go without forcing it to do so. It will want to go to the caps, your just giving it conduit. But you will still need a load to pull the energy from this aerial.

Anyway, this is the basic idea I received from the rest of you so far. Thank you very much!

t3t4