Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[electricme]

@wintermuteai1

I would also like to welcome you to the forum.

You obviously have studied up on the Stubblefield patient, and you are reading the posts, it's a hard thing to do, when theres so many, but theres a wealth of information in them.

@all,
I have been looking at the cutaway view of the Stubblefield coil wintermuteai1 has posted (which is a beauty).
I have just realised the secondary turns, is "offset" several degrees to the Bifilar turns.

Back on the Joule Thief thread, some of the people there made mobious toroids, the turns were offset on an angle.
I'm wondering if we have another mystery here as well?

I'm also having thoughts about the necessity of immersing the coil in water in the first place.
Listening to Lasersabers YouTube video, he mentions the coil was placed in water, but it began to function as it began to dry out, so could it be water shorts out the turns, and dry wires allows energy to flow?

I know one thing for sure, if a working stubblefield coil with a 240v secondary gets wet, there is going to be a heep of sparks in turnally if it gets wet.


jim

[protonmom]

I'm also having thoughts about the necessity of immersing the coil in water in the first place.
Listening to Lasersabers YouTube video, he mentions the coil was placed in water, but it began to function as it began to dry out, so could it be water shorts out the turns, and dry wires allows energy to flow?

jim

Jim, Stubblefield included a picture in the patent showing the coil immersed in a container of water.  I don't think he would have said to immerse it if he didn't mean it.He used "water" 4 times in a row...
line 98...(1.) ... battery and electromagnet for use with water as electrolyte...   
line 107 (2.) ... an electrical  battery for use with water   
line 112 (3.) ...  an electrical battery for use wifh water...   
line 118 (4.) ...an electrical  battery for use with water...

so, I think the water is important.(at least if you follow the patent exactly)  My opinion.

[Pirate88179]

For what it is worth, my output on the 2 coils i had buried always went down when it rained and were much better as they dried out and the best in seemingly dry conditions.  It may be that there is an optimum amount of moisture required?  Too little not good and too much not good either?

Bill

[Cap-Z-ro]

Bill, they may possibly perform better in the wetter conditions when it is discovered exactly how to properly connect the wires...and to what.

And I suspect like someone else mentioned, that the coil is coupled with another component, where sizable current is produced.

Someone here will eventually trigger a though in someone else, and it will be figured out.

Time is the only issue I believe.

Regards...

[protonmom]

It does seem to be that way, Bill, as you have shown with your coils.  I don't know why Stubbs said to use the water, but do you recall how people have said the wires were not even corroded after being buried for so long?  Perhaps it is some kind of intial treatment the coil needs and then it gets buried???  Perhaps he had to word the patent the way he did, just to throw off the officials.  He also said something to the effect that anyone knowledgeable in the art would know what to do...and something also about it wouldn't hurt to make a few changes.  Or, maybe the word WATER is a clue in itself.  So, perhaps the water is not such a necessity as worded in the patent, after all.  I have not buried mine yet, except that first one which was only in the ground a very short time.  (it still gives some voltage by the way) 

I just know that we will eventually discover all his little secrets and maybe a few more.  If we only knew some of the families HE knew, maybe they could give us some insights. 

Bill,

did you ever make it back down to the museum?  Did you ever get a chance  to look into the trunk?  Did you take more photos? 

Stephan,
Could you please name off the men in the logo at the top of the forum,  where it says The Quest For Freedom?  Thanks