Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[electricme]

@ frozenwater,
Wow, thats a BIG hole you got there, bet you were outa puf by the time you got all the dirt out, so you are up to page 111, you got a few more to readup, we got a term we all coined a couple of years back on the JT thread called "playing catch up"

Nice photos, if you want the good oil on the correct placement of magnesium, copper or carbon rods, Bill (Pirate88179) is the bloke who is the efundi on all knowledge on this topic, I reccomend him.
But you will need to place your rods in a North South arrangement to get the best results.

I read where you mentioned about drilling a hole through the carbon rod, to connect your wires to it, well, well, well, now why didn't I think of that, so simple but it should work.

I am constantly amased at the new ways people come up with to over come a problem.
 
jim

[IotaYodi]

But you will need to place your rods in a North South arrangement to get the best results.

One of the problems he will have given the area. My hat is off to him and cant wait for some data.
From what Ive read on some scientific research,filament type carbon which is lined up in one direction has a better flow.
Electricme you are a man of many talents. Anxious to see how your cotton machine goes.   

[FrozenWaterLab]

found this kinda interesting about magnesium anodes

Alloy Compositions Grade “A” Grade “B” Grade “C”
Element % % %
Aluminum 5.3 - 6.7 5.3 - 6.7 5.0 - 7.0
Zinc 2.5 - 3.5 2.5 - 3.5 2.0 - 4.0
Manganese (Min) 0.15 0.15 0.10
Impurities
Iron (Max.) 0.003 0.003 0.003
Nickel (Max.) 0.002 0.003 0.003
Copper (Max.) 0.02 0.05 0.10
Silicon (Max.) 0.10 0.30 0.30
Other (Max.) 0.30 0.30 0.30
Magnesium Balance Balance Balance
Typical Electrochemical Properties
Amps/Hrs./Lb. 500-540
Efficiency 50-54%
Closed Circuit Potential -1.45 to -1.55v
(Copper/Copper Sulfate)
Open Circuit Potential -1.50 to -1.60v
(Copper/Copper Sulfate)
Cotton Bag

20 Ga. Perforated
Galvanized Steel Core
Backfill Lead Wire

" Packaged Anodes are prepack in either bags or cardboard
cartons in low resistivity, quick wetting, prepared backfill
consisting of 75% hydratred gypsum,
20% bentonite,
and 5% sodium sulphate. "

Connecting Wire: Standard
10 feet of solid or stranded #12 AWG Copper Lead Wire/THWN/THNN.

Might have to try this as backfill for both pos and neg???
up to Pg 145 - been Ill and recovering now (Crawling Crud) but still the tickle in the back of my thought is keeping me in the house.
Reading the posts isn't what takes time its all the other references to study. Youall are a prolific source haha.
Like reading a novel - Can't weight for the next dewelopmnt.
FrznWtr

[electricme]

@IotaYodi

Electricme you are a man of many talents. Anxious to see how your cotton machine goes.

Thankyou  , The cotton machine is out in the elements, and I am having temps in the lows of -0 to 5 overnight, into the 17 - 20 range during the days so I prefer to be indoors lol.
Work will progress when spring arrives in my neck of the woods.

I'm going on a little overseas trip shortly, will tell you all about the tropics  when I return next month 

FrosenWaterLabs, get well, you not alowed to kark it on us.

jim 

[FrozenWaterLab]

Thnks for your concern Jim I'm on the mend but now that my sore throat is better I got this terrible dry hack. (Crawling Crud for sure)

Hi All
Well got into the back yard and planted some Mg rods on the N-S meridian
every 10' out to 65' (First is 5' from carbon's and is a double 3" apart E-W
(used grinder brush on one Mg rod to remove oxidized surface 2nd is unbrushed)
used a 1" x 5'  digging rod to poke holes 1' deep, then banged in the 1" x 1' Mg
Rigged a roll of 16 gage multi strand with alligator clips each end.
Took a cheep analog and a midrange digital out with me.
So wouldn't you know it, RAIN.

Well a few quick readings.
1st hole 3' deep to North has 4 carbon rods in it. All separated by 1' center fill.
A= 2" diameter x 2' to west at bottom of hole.
B= 3/4" Squair x 8" to north at bottom of hole.
C= 1/2" x  2" x 15" to east at bottom of hole.
D= 3/4" Squair x 8" to south at top of hole, Bottom of rod aprox. 1'
E= an 8' x 5/8" Ground rod driven flush 3' to west of 1st hole. (Lots of work this one)
           (Out of N-S alignment till another Mg can be set)

Neg Element = 1" Diameter x 1' Mg Flush in ground 5' south of 1st hole

A to Uncleaned = 1.619V
A to cleaned = 1.214V (Surprising will redo test soon. Pulled Mg to check also)

Used Uncleaned Mg rod for rest of Measurements

B (Deep) = 1.610

C = 1.610

D (Shallow) = 1.397

E = 1.455V

A to 60' away Mg = 1.775V


No Amp readings. Socks are wet and back is damp. Still raining and its getting dark.
My Declination is 19 Degrees West - alined 360 with compass North,
then sighted to 341 degrees.
My Inclination is 74 Degrees
So bottom of 1' Neg electrode to bottom of 3' carbon - 5' apart would require about a 20' hole for the carbon elements.
I believe
(Please correct me if you believe me  wrong here)
and I have to say,  it's not going to happen. Haha

But it dose appear the 3/4 sq. elements B & D show that deeper is better.
I do intend to try an Mg at 1' that should give me the proper inclination. We will see.

A & B are real close considering .09V difference and Prob. about 10 to 1 Surface area difference.
May Be cutting those 2 x 1/2 x 15" down the length into 1"x 1/2"  BUT still have to do Amperage readings.

5' between A & Neg = 1.619 and 60' between = 1.775
is an .156V difference 2/10ths of a volt? Not that much for 60' of wire but then over all power may be better??  Closser may be better?

Need to gang wire Carbons and a set of Mg's also. If not better need to remove excess elements from each hole but that would be after testing is complete.
If anyone has any Ideas about test to do, Please step up and let me know.
Lots to do though before I move on to the NBS Coil.

Lookin for clear sky
This is way fun.
FrznWtr
Oh up to Pg 161 and now theres Pirates other thread to look into

@Jim
By the way Jim. At the tip, watch for old electric hot water heaters.
There is a Magnesium anode in um with a 1" (27mm) fitting to screw it into the tank. Looks like a blank plug. may be of various lengths ie 10" (270mm) to 36" (972mm) depending on size of heater. Usually about 3/4" (21mm) diameter. Over here anyway. (Can be very dificult to remove as corrodedon old tanks - I sugest a heavy Boxend 6-point wrench) Good Luck.
Oh for carbon the Air Arc rods are an easy source but need copper coating stripped off (Leave 1/2" of the flat end to solder to - Good rosen core, hi silver content electronics type solder)