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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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FrozenWaterLab

Well if their inducing current then they will also build an mag field in the core and if their flip flopping this would be a somewhat opposing field for the rotor or could be timed that way if the rotors had an common shaft.
Push pull? Might be an add situation? hard to visualize.
Maybe more explanation is needed. which coils are you referring to? The secondary?
They will induce the Primaries also. and cause a polarity in the core.
I think I'm in over my head till I can build a couple.
Can you conceptualize your idea with a pic and step by step explanation?
the duel coil drawing is a good start.
Asking allot I know - would take sincere effort.
FrznWtr

IotaYodi

Quotewould be a somewhat opposing field for the rotor or could be timed that way if the rotors had an common shaft.
That is a different design. Once the coils are started there is no rotor. A magnetic pulse of sufficient force on one coil eliminates the magnetic rotor.     
The rotor scheme that laser has is triggering the coil with magnets pulsing the reed switch. Im thinking of just 2 coils and their own magnetic fields pulsing each other with the output being straight electricity into a motor or caps. Lasers single coil design would also work that way,as well as turning the rotor/wheel connected to a shaft. You would then have 2 points of power. The electrical output on the coil and the mechanical power from the shaft turning a belt driven motor or other device. The large rotor/wheel is a good design if we can get enough rpms and torque. A small miniature motor run by the shaft could possibly charge caps or other devices. 
QuotePush pull? Might be an add situation? hard to visualize.

Thats an idea worth pursuing when using 2 coils and a rotor wheel. In fact you opened up a can of worms for me with the rotors orientation between 2 coils and no and nc reed switches. A quick concept below.
 

The larger the coil the more power.
The only problem I see with the coil is low frequency pulses causing local magnetic interference in homes and telecommunications devices. That would have to be looked at. Fcc frowns on that.
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

FrozenWaterLab

Just Posted here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8540.165

Now @ IotaYodi
Yer quick - I like the way you think.
But first I want to point out NS seams, to me anyway, to suggest the use of both directions of magnetic polarity in the core rod. He knew the secret and I can't believe or don't want to believe he wouldn't leave a crumb trail to the use of his device.
Second if the posable priming of the device might entrain additional power through some type of resonance or sympathetic modulation so to speak, it seams obvious that both or all of the available range of the coil would need to be employed.
    With one side or direction the coil is hampered. It would induce a positive hump into the secondary. To do this again is a start from zero proposition.
     If on the other hand it then swings the other way (the secondary just slumped its field by creating a spike and returning to "0" with posable some form of swing inertia it may be a bit easier to continue in the neg direction. If you are using Two Coil it seams to me this may be even more a possibility. But I'm not a pro in any of this so just trying to discuss it in a common sense vein. One primary going up the other down. Wire direction the same ok what's the primary winding doing and how is the core affected.

I agree a large flywheel is a definite direction to explore.

Would you agree for your Concept that the field of one secondary would be collapsing and therefor building a current in the other secondary? that would then cause a field to build.
That field would effect the primary and cause a current but it has its own current. Are these going to work together or oppose? I'm trying to understand the whole system. it sounds like the slight current created by the primary itself if uncontrolled is only going to be what it is and can only be beneficial in 1/2 the cycle and oppose the system in the other half unless switched in some manner. Or so I beleave.
So this would be a crescendo situation due to losses and would ring down to nothing without additional input. Where do you propose this comes from and how?
If you eliminate the wheel - well I believe I am at a loss, would the coil cycle itself?
Perhaps the vibratory switch? Or are you thinking the earths energy is going to take over?

Now let me apologize in advance I'm not trying to spoof you here IotaYodi I'm trying to understand what your saying. AND explore all posable avenues. That was why I asked for the step by step
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Once the coils are started there is no rotor. A magnetic pulse of sufficient force on one coil eliminates the magnetic rotor.
The collapsing magnetic field on #1 coil would induce current into #2 coil. When #2 coils magnetic field collapsed it would induce current into #1 coil and so on.
End Quote

Your Picture concept is interesting one generating and one collapsing that I like. I think if the other side of each coil were to have the opposite switch it would compliment the whole operation but who can say what is needed you might be on the right trail??? in this type situation the coils could still be right next to one another. Right?
Would the magnets on the wheel be alternating direction or all face the same way?
Or perhaps two rows?

We need to build like LS and see what will happen right.
That concept is one worth looking at

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Night all

dllabarre

Quote from: jeanna on September 01, 2010, 03:23:33 PM

I had it on my computer but never really studied it, because what was different was all the info about the electro-magnet!! (what the us pat would not allow!

GB189807577A is the gb patent number.

Thank you... this is very cool.

jeanna

Can you point me to where you got that patent?
I can't seem to find it on the web.

Thanks
DonL

conradelektro

Quote from: dllabarre on September 04, 2010, 10:44:30 AM
Can you point me to where you got that patent?
I can't seem to find it on the web.

Thanks
DonL

Got to this webpage http://ep.espacenet.com/numberSearch?locale=en_EP

And in the field Number: you type GB189807577 (then click on SEARCH).

May be this direct link works:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=18980520&CC=GB&NR=189807577A&KC=A

Greetings, Conrad