Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Localjoe]

If you and your group would sign a disclaimer that stated in no way you could take these technologies and patent them for yourself  i would think about it , you just have to be careful now days.  I say let hans and bill evaluate your integrity if your good enough for them i'll trust you... But i am serious about the large Italian family. I dont like scammers and feel it a personal mission after getting ripped off a few christmas's back for 2 grand to hunt down scammers... so if your legit cool.  Otherwise i might have a striation-less projectile with your name on it.. 

[Localjoe]

Jenna
If you have a chance completely discharge the caps and hook them to your earth battery even if its just copper and zinc  make sure not and i repeat not to insulate these and see what readings you get  after that try what bill has done with the resistor and the led and see what kind of lasting time you get from it ... As well his led may be a 1.5 v one and yours may be a higher rating could be why your not getting light try a diff led maybe.  Good work
                                                                                             Joe

[todd.hathaway]

We have no intention of patenting anything ourselves but inventors usually put that check in the box with their own patents...don't think open source techs can be patented once the info is posted online, though Tom Valone at IRI is the expert in the patent field since he's been working at the USPTO and fighting with them in court for years until recently when he won his case, so you could ask him about that.  Anyway, Nora and I are more than happy to affirm and sign documentation stating that we'll keep open source techs and even potential open source techs out there for all to reproduce at will, since that's what we do with the techs we're funding out of our own pockets for inventors who are willing to open source their projects.  It's a small world this adv alternative energy field, so it won't take long for anyone with a phone and email account to determine our intent by making a few phone calls...just talk to people we interact with on a regular basis.  A lot of them are with the New Energy Congres and New Energy Movement.  Many more are listed online at www.green-salon.com.  It's better for researchers to work directly with other researchers than with us, as we can only help network technologies with prospective sources of funding, and it's hard to fund open source projects via investors since they can't lock in projected profits.  We can help by providing public awareness to new technologies so open source R&D can garner additional support from the public.  The only event coming up where inventors can present techs to our network directly is on June 28-29, mentioned online at www.green-salon.com, and we mention there no RSVP is required so anyone can bring anything they want, and even scope out the place to determine whether it's for them or not.  The idea for a tax credit for independent R&D is a good one, and some form of credit for alternative energy R&D may already be available...not sure about that one.

We're involved with DoD because we all have allies within DoD now - www.energyconversation.org is the web site that posts the dates for upcoming events where anyone can show up and meet with those working in DoD.  See also www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/040306_discussing_energy.shtml for info on one of the first meetings.  It's held at 300 Army Navy Drive at the Doubletree Hotel on Mondays around 6 p.m. - 9 p.m.  Speakers vary widely from one month to the next.  Even Nora's dad is talking at an upcoming event at Mitzi Wertheim's house in D.C.  She's mentioned in the fromthewilderness article somewhere, and helped start the Energy Conversation meetings and the Energy Consensus Group nonprofit.  Her house is where Nora and I met over a year ago. 

The pendulum is swinging in our favor in D.C...finally.  There are too many of us to control, and now we're infiltrating gov't circles in order to gain support for adv energy tech R&D.  It's impossible for the U.S. gov't to control open source techs since this is an international initiative, and the more we collaborate, the quicker the adv energy techs will be made available via open source.  We are no longer the minority as far as we're concerned. 

FYI - I added this www.overunity.com blog in the "Discussion Groups" section a few minutes ago to help get the word out. 

Todd & Nora
301-320-3716

[jeanna]

Jenna
If you have a chance completely discharge the caps and hook them to your earth battery even if its just copper and zinc  make sure not and i repeat not to insulate these and see what readings you get  after that try what bill has done with the resistor and the led and see what kind of lasting time you get from it ... As well his led may be a 1.5 v one and yours may be a higher rating could be why your not getting light try a diff led maybe.  Good work
                                                                                             Joe

Where are you getting these LEDs that work with so little voltage?

Thing is, my cu-zn isn't giving me that much voltage. It is giving me 1,003v. This nice cap set up shows both side of the parallel caps to say 1.18v so that is where the light stops glowing. I am using green. Maybe I should try red, but I think I remember that green is the one that needs the least for start up. see the start up of a green led otta be 1.65v but with these caps whipping the charge back n forth the light is staying on. well, that is my explanation anyway. I will look up to see if I can find some kind of LED that uses less than 1.65v.

I was outside yesterday with carbon - mag under the tree and the meter said 1.65v. Maybe it wasn't well connected  or maybe the leads touched the ground or something. cuz I got no light no charge. but it is the reason I soldered the leads of the light to the double cap. I will do it again  I need to try it with this parallel addition too.

jeanna

[Localjoe]

@ todd

Thanks we'll be in contact if were interested otherwise.. you could on a sunny weekend grab a few peices of metal trot out to the yard and tell us your results.. thanks for the input and make sure to read the whole thread if your going to advertise or replicate 
                                                                          Thanks
                                                                                      Joe