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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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mikestocks2006

Update, Initial tests.

But first things first.
I?ve arranged with the Utilities Protection Services to come out to the property,  identify and locate (spray and flag) any underground cables and their location. They also do the gas, sewer and water lines.

They?ve located the power cables, the telephone, and TV cable.
May I suggest at this point to anyone who?s delving into digging or driving any conductors in their yard to do the same as a safety precaution. The cables are not very deep. From a couple of feet for power cables to few inches for TV and telephone.
Ok back to the test parameters

Tested first for galvanic effect if any.
Used 2 Zinc Hot Dipped Nails 12? long 3/8? Dia ( 30cm L x 1 cm Dia) ~ 65 cents cost
Driven into the ground to a depth of 10 Inches (25 cm) 
Aligned North and South
Distance apart 23 feet (7 m)
Safe distance from any underground cables/pipes etc over 75ft ( 22.5 m)
There are no transformers in this street, the closest drop per the utility ppl is over half a mile away. (.8 km)

Readings
No resistor
Voltage 57 mV DC
Current 0.051 mA
Also shorted the gap and immediately tested again, the same readings shown
Flipped the multimeter test leads and both V and A were reading negative (-) same values. (assured multimeter was not pumping the setup etc)

Across 10.1 Ohm resistor
Voltage 2 mV DC
Current 0.005 mA

Across  1024 Ohm resistor  (~1KOhm)
Voltage 28mV DC
0.045 mA

No VAC was detected.

Next  planning on using metal conduit pipe ?? OD (1.23cm)
Got a 10 foot (3 m)  length cut in half so I can get over a meter into the ground, but it started raining (getting close to freezing point too) so will have to wait and when more time is available. Interested to see the effect if any of more ground contact area. Apparently distance is not much of a factor, if anyhting it seems to help. But only limited testing so far...

Some other combinations may include, metal conduit and copper pipe (both ?? Dia) and
orienting the conductors East-West to see if there is any effects. Also looking into Al pipe.
Again this does not appear to be pure galvanic effect or it should be reading zeros.
Maybe we need to do this, way out in the woods as another member also suggested.

Thanks

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

Have a look at this article. Could this mechanism offer part of the explanation for the phenomenon?

http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=1363&q=&page=all

Hope this helps in your research.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Pirate88179

Hans:

Excellent article.  We appreciate your input.  I guess it is possible that these microbes are in the ground soil and generating electricity.  Since, from what I have read, no one knows exactly where this power comes from, then that means that no one can say where it isn't coming from.

@mikestocks:

Very good recomendation on the burried cable location service.  It wouldn't do to drive a conducting rod into a powerline.  Possibly free energy for a while if one lived through it, but not a good idea.  I obtained similar results with two copper pipes, which should eliminate the galvanic angle.  I am still going to use carbon and either zinc or magnesium to see what happens.  My best results are in polar alignement N/S not magnetic N/S.

@Stefan:

The mesh sheets you speak of would have a ton of surface area for their size.  I had a similar thought when looking through the metals department in a hardware store.  I was checking out the expanded metal sheets (with the diamond shaped hole patterns) and I asked what material they were made of and I was told "metal".  Wow, that really narrows it down.  Stainless should work I would think.  I am not sure if you burry it paralell to the n/s meridian or across it?  I guess 90 degrees to it would allow for more interception of the currents.  A lot of experimentation here.  I bought some alligator clips to make some longer jumper wires and a few leds as well. (Radio shack)

Bill

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

georgemay

Guys, I just came across this topic. Sorry to bust this topic but it is not new.  My cousin in Poland has a neighbor who is selling electricity to the grid using this principle for about 10 years.  The only thing is that he sticks his electrodes into big pile of city waste.  Everyone is saying that he make electricity from garbage.  When asked how it works, he doesn't really wants to talk about it.  Hartiberlin, the funny thing is that he learned it, from someone in Germany.   Obviously someone in your country knows this for years! 
George

Pirate88179

@George:

First, welcome to this topic.

Second, no one claimed that this is "new" as evidenced by the patents listed in the early posts dating from the 1800's.  That is interesting information about your cousin in Poland.  If he is selling them why does his company not come up anywhere in a search for earth batteries?  Possibly he is not on the internet.  Also, you said he is using waste areas which might be related to Hans's recent post here.

Can we get more information on your cousin?  Things like, what is he selling? Kits? How much? How much power is he able to obtain?  Any of this would be very helpful I think.  I am glad he is working on this idea.

If you cousin can speak/write English, or if you can translate for him...and he has access to the internet, why not invite him to this forum and topic?  I know you said he won't give any secrets away, and that's fine.  I would just be interested in whatever he might feel like telling us.  Thanks.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen