Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[hartiberlin]

Guys, 
Got reply from Poland.  Sorry for disinformation.  The guy is not using electrodes but pipes to recover methane gas to power converted diesel engine with generator.   Well, next time I will check facts first, before I open my mouth. 
George

I just wanted to post about this, as this was the only case I could imagine he was using it alike.
There seems to be coming a lot of Methane from bio waste.
Some guys over here in Germany also did it by putting pipes somehow into the waste and collecting the
methane gas and then running an ICE to power a generator.

How much waste does it need to do this ?
How big is the land the neighbour of your cousin is using for this and how many
KiloWatts is he producing this way ?

[georgemay]

Stefan,

Here what's my cousin wrote:

Landfill is 200x200 meters.  He has 2 diesel engines from polish truck Jelcz and 1 generator.  He starts engine on disel oil then switches to gas.  sometimes he runs 1 engine and sometimes 2 at at the same time - that depends on amount of gas he can recover.  There is generator, some sort of transformer and another device before hookup to national grid.  The consistence of gas is unknown to me. 

He did not specify how much energy the guy can produce but I just checked the HP of the engines.  I am not sure which model he has but 1975 model has 185HP; and newer '2000 models are 320HP.  from here you can figure more or less how many KW he is capable to produce.

[jeanna]

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There seems to be coming a lot of Methane from bio waste.
Some guys over here in Germany also did it by putting pipes somehow into the waste and collecting the
methane gas and then running an ICE to power a generator.

How much waste does it need to do this ?
How big is the land the neighbour of your cousin is using for this and how many
KiloWatts is he producing this way ?
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I went to the Real Goods Solarfest in 2000. A one of the 20 minute teaching sessions a fellow described his system using 2 plastic garbage cans one overturned on top of the other.
Inside he put only grass clippings and small yard cuttings. probably some water too. he collected methane which went from the cans through another container loaded with steel wool to filter out the sulphur. He wrote a book with this in it. No I don't know the name of the book but I think it was a gardening book. sorry.
This is called biogas. It has been collected in an industrial way in India.
google "biogas" and see what you get. It looks good.
jeanna

[jeanna]

I have a few results today.

First - and I recommend this to everyone doing this test- I put a fresh battery into my multimeter. These ever so convenient machines compare what they are finding between the probes to an assumed 9 volt constant. So that was the first step.

Yesterday because of the storm I did a little test in the earth ground inside a metal shed. So, with the fresh battery I rechecked my Cu > rebar as it was in the same place as yesterday. and the results were somewhat lower.

Inside shed
Cu > rebar  0.13v
Cu > Zn        0.6v (galvanized 10 penny nail)
Cu > graphite  0.24v (carpenter's pencil - what a great idea, bill)
graphite > Zn  0.9v
Then I went outside. I wondered if being in a metal shed which has a faraday cage effect (it does not allow the signal of cell phones to penetrate) would dampen any aetheric or electromagnetic effects from the schuman cavity,  if that is what we are seeing. I wondered this because Stubbenfield used an antenna for some of his batteries.
outside the shed
graphite > Zn  1.06v (up 0.16v from inside)
Cu > graphite  0.14v (down 0.1 from inside)
The only other oddity to report is from disturbing the earth. I couldn't get the graphite deep enough in the ground and I wanted to try getting all these deeper than a few inches so, I dug with a shovel and stuck the pencil into the earth and returned the soil and patted it around the pencil. Now the pencil and the zinc nail were both about 6 inches (15cm) deep.
I guess I forgot to record it but it was almost nothing. something like 0.05v  I won't speculate but this is interesting about disturbing the soil, I think.
One more thing, I checked the voltage between the Zn nail and the graphite pencil around in a circle. and closer than 1 meter apart. There was no change at all  1.06v every time near or far, north/south or east/west .
So, 12 graphite pencils and 12 galvanized nails will give me a 12 volt battery for free. I love it. I am taking a welding class and I will see if I can get some graphite from there.
more later. I think I will try to get 2 sets in series and light a LED. Maybe take a picture.

jeanna

[Localjoe]

Yes jenna the ground can be used for a return path i found that out trying to run a battery in series with the ground rods i have and the power came through. I do know that telephone lines have a pretty hefty voltage that goes thorough them normally. I never thought it was much until i got bit once.... hurts   In that sense of a return ground i think there has to be a certain ammt of pressure we could say for it to be worthwhile.   I'm still betting the only way to harness useful energy will be with big coils and a ferromagnetic core for a transformer.  I guess what is throwing me is all these patents have a version of a strong inductor or coil wired directly off the electrode but the ends are shorted since they only use one peice of wire.  Now were all measuring dc but for those transformers or coils that are being used it must be a form of ac or that avenue would have been pointless so mabey with 4 electrodes 2 of each, one of each with a wire wrapped around iron or ferrite core so cu > iorncore> zn and cu> ironcore > zn,  wind secondaries  and take those leads to a full wave rectifier. Correct me if i'm wrong, but that should be a 6 diode bridge for full wave as opposed to 4 diode for half wave. I remember subblefields real patent name being along the lines of an em amplifier. Ah ha the  patent description is starting to make more sense. 
"Stubblefield Earth Battery OR Electro-magnetic Induction Amplifier"