Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[gyulasun]

I hope this shows up correctly.  All three are magnetic.  I tied a string to only one and it lifted the other two.  I doubt the little one would lift the two big ones, but it is still magnetic on its own.  Why would they be magnetic and does anyone know what they are?  I call the two big ones caps because on the board the first letter was a C.

Hi all,

These coils are so called linearity coils used in television sets and computer monitors with CRT tubes, in the horizontal output stages. The magnet is used for fine-tuning possibility for the coil's inductance, normally by a cylinder ferrite magnet magnetized through its diameter and attached to one end of the coil ferrite core. This way the magnet's flux closes via the core and can change the core's permeability when you slightly turn the magnet mechanically.

http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/464468
See here for instance
http://www.premmagnetics.com/3500.html
http://www.premmagnetics.com/82xx.html

rgds, Gyula

[t3t4]

I learned something today that some may find interesting. I've been re-running my previous tests as you know, some of which have shown lack luster results. I'm finally getting to the source of the reason.

The answer is, wire size and type of wire. I honestly thought these minuscule details to be unimportant, but apparently the opposite is true.

Originally I was using 2 conductor phone cords as extension cords. In all pic's shown by me thus far, I have used real electrical extension cords, not phone cords. Also, I used magnet wire as extension cords in my original tests. Here in lies the difference. When I go back to basics, I get much better results. I had no idea this little change could make such a difference, but I'm here to tell you it means everything. It's all induction and resonance. You will see that I do end with magnet wire, but I'm not ready to show that yet, the set up will take time.

So take it for what it's worth.

Thanks,
t3t4

[jeanna]

http://www.premmagnetics.com/3500.html
http://www.premmagnetics.com/82xx.html

rgds, Gyula

Thank you gyula,
Those curves are interesting.
DC current to inductance.
I would not have guessed.

@protonmom,
I will check mine to see if I have a magnet in mine.I bought them as simple inductors which are 220uH.
They weigh too much to be plastic which is what I was going to mention to you as the way to tell, however, if gyula's inductor with a magnet inside is what you have, then it will weigh more than plastic too.

@t3t4,
This is very interesting information.
Thank you so much for sharing it.
I have always wondered about
a- the need for the special magnet wire and
b- stranded vs unstranded wire.

I am using stranded this year on both my EB and BEER's in the ground because I got such low results last year using 24g tele wire.
I won't switch again this year but I am glad to know there might be a difference in the ariel part at least.
I remember Bill used 14g hook up wire which was stranded last year. I have been assuming he still is this year.

thanks everybody,

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

T3:

Do you think it might be because the additional magnet wire is like an antenna extension?  I too have used regular extension cords of fairly heavy gauge as connector wires.  It is convenient and, the larger wire size keeps resistance low.

But, as you said, a change like that could and would effect the resonance a lot.

This is very important and I have seen this a lot on here, and other sites.  If someone does an experiment and then others "replicate" it, except instead of a 1k resistor they used a 400k, and instead of a 300 volt cap they use a 40 volt cap and instead of copper wire they used aluminum....well...you get the idea.  I just really detest when this happens and then folks say hey, I tried your experiment but it does not work.

My point is, that this is your experiment and you made what you thought was a slight change and it does not work as before.  So, I think there is an important lessen here for all of us.  One change, no matter how small we think it is at the time may alter the experiment and therefore the results.

I also hate when folks have a great device working, and then take it apart to "improve" it and then can't get it to work again. (I am not speaking of you here)

I applaud your efforts here and thank you for sharing this information.  A lot of folks would not admit to not having as good results as before.  Knowing all of the information is key to understanding how a system or circuit might be working and why.

Please keep us posted on your efforts.  We are all in this together.

Bill

[IotaYodi]

Ditto Pirate. Research like this requires details. If you have a working model its better to leave it alone and replicate it again. Even a manufactured identical part from two manufacturers may cause a difference. This is scientific research and it needs to be approached as such. Documentation along with images is not that hard to do.

Still raining here and my bare Eb is still around 60 v