Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[protonmom]

MW383,
I believe it should only go into the ground straight up and down...according to the pictures we have seen and the patent.  It sounds as if you will be contributing a lot to this forum.  I am hoping you come up with some good results.  I plan to bury my latest one soon.  The mag wire is on the way, so as soon as it gets here I will be adding the secondary.  I have already done the experiments without any secondary.  Now it is time for some action.
As far as the radioactive materials the "family" says he uses...sometimes I wonder about that.  I have a feeling that at the last, he may have used some such thing, but I don't believe he did at the beginning.  Of course that is only my opinion, so take it for what it is worth.  I just think that sometimes the "family" is trying to throw us off.  Again, MY opinion only.

[jeanna]

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Obviously the switching mechanism of primary coil a critical design requirement to a battery that lives a long life.

I had a discussion about this with an EE friend. He felt sure and so managed to convince me that this is doing a combination of battery and electrolysis. One per cycle and so whatever was oxidized in one part of the cycle got reduced in the next.

Exactly what orientation should this be placed in the ground? I have seen videos of people putting them in vertically. I also read a post that stated to put it in horizontally. If horizontal the way to go, should it be placed parallel to field lines. I visited the field line website and have data for my location. I have no idea what the actual terms refer to though or how to put them into practice. So instead,  I have been using simple copper - galvanized pipes to manually determine best orientation that makes highest voltage. The line typically created is more or less a slight southeast to northwest orientation (or slighty off from magnetic north-south). Any suggestions would be appreciated!

If you look at any photographs of Stubblefield using his devices, you will see that they are always stuck into the ground and the coil part is about 18 inches above the ground.
Do what you think you want to try, but save the one that is hard to build for the 18 inches above trials until you have finished using the other one.
(Mine and Bills and maybe others ended up with shorted coils when they got literally buried.)

I have to state that these things do not work well in jars. So while I will test the big one I build in water, most testing will be conducted in the ground.

Jeanna, I see you mentioned a below ground - above ground scenerio. This is interesting because in my agricultural activities I did come accross what are termed as quantum agricultural broadcasters.

lousy galvanic battery

quantum agricultural broadcaster!!  I love it!

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Mixed with Iron particles = creating a magnetic field around the battery?
Is this to say that in order for this design to work it needs the assistance of these other factors?

I agree that it is very curious.
My thoughts are that microbes can reassimilate and refresh the wires if there is a need, but I have not seen a need yet.

I agree... no radioactive stuff here either.

I have been stewing a theory about Nathan Stubblefield.

We know 2 things in his dealings with the powers.
1- the patent office refused to grant him a patent unless he called it a galvanic battery AND they did not permit his use of 'magnetic' at all in the description.
These are from his own  hand written notes on his brochure.

2- The 'town fathers' declined his offer to install his less expensive wireless cell phone system for the town.
--Now, Why would they do that?

I have been thinking his work was also being blackballed. We know that Tesla's work was blackballed.
Stubblefield was wealthy and did not NEED any backers so the powers could not stop him the same way if they felt threatened by his work.

I think there is every reason to think they might have felt threatened.
Isn't it curious that the notes we do have make no mention of anything that we can use?
He surely kept notes, but there are no notes on his experiments.
He died a bitter man.
Many inventors who cannot understand why no one finds their work acceptable get bitter, so there is no mystery there, But why are there no real notes?

One of our experimenters went to the museum and brought back pictures.
All the notes had to do with newspaper clippings. No experimenter's notes??

HE did not say he used pitchblende and iron filings, so, if he actually used it, then  why didn't he mention it?

jeanna

[jeanna]

I just did some scopeshots and measurements of my
EB and various combinations of EER with EB etc. whatever all that means! 

The reason I want to mention this is because when I started there was nothing I could do to get  the dmm volts dc to be higher than 25mv  And this was on either set-up.

But since I had set it all up to read it, I went ahead with the scope.
The scope shots seemed to be unaffected by the low dc volts below it.
I have never had the opportunity to see this so dramatically.

But then here is the extra surprize.
Since I had not photographed the the very low dc voltages, I hooked the meter up again and to my surprise, they were normal!

This reminds me of the kapandanze bit where he first charges his EER then get a really big response.

I am just reporting this. I do not know what it means, if anything.

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What I was planning to look for today, was to see if I had an inductor I could add to the NS system (or whatever looked best) to augment the voltages. I do not think anything added enough to count.
So that hair clipper wallwart is still the best.
... More on that later when there is something to share.
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jeanna

[MW383]

Just some stuff I was reading about these things.

1_ placement critical. needs to be in magic place. no info on how to identify them.
    under trees looks to be a popular scheme.
2_ placement obviously vertical over a magic spot. electrical leads above ground thus will
    not short out.
3_ soak time required.
4_ secondary coil used to trigger things. primary coil used to collect. makes sense because
    primary coil has the heavy guage materials in it and therefore capable of carrying high
    currents.
5_ seems to operate like a pump. trigger event causes an earth response in magnitude.

so here are the various quips I collected. My apologies if this is repeat information

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involved the development and examination of simple earth batteries: buried metallic arrangements, which produced weak electrolytic power. Mr. Stubblefield observed a strange "earth-charging phenomenon", reporting that the burial of an "earth energy cell" required time to build up charge. During the first phase of this charge building process, the characteristic weak output was observed. This was usually a volt at half an ampere, the general electrolytic output of buried metals.

Stubblefield knew that placement of any grounded metal was the key toward deriving power. If properly placed, the energetic output of his cell would be phenomenal. Finding such a power point, he buried the cell. The process took a week or more to build strength. Once the cell was "saturated", however, it became (in his words) "a conduit of earth charge". This mysterious transition from weak battery to energy conduit required time.

Mr. Stubblefield simply stated that the fully saturated coil suddenly "manifested an electromotive force far greater than any known wet-cell". This state being achieved, the cell flowed over in "commercial electrical volumes".

Stubblefield envisioned the energy cell as a "plug", drawing out the electrical charge of the ground. The cell coils acted as a lumped conductor. Charge saturated this conductor and flowed up into it, powering any electrically connected appliance. After repeated exhumations, the copper element of these cells was found "not acted on in any perceptible degree ... even after repeated renewals".

Mr. Stubblefield described means by which such cells could be connected in series at short distances from one another. "With these, acting as electrodes ... you draw from the electrical energy of the earth a constant E.M.F. of commercial value". That phrase... "acting as electrodes..." is the heart of the Stubblefield energy cell. It is not a battery. It absorbs and flows over with the stupendous energy of the earth's charge.

This device, an earthed electrode, drew up enough natural electric charge from the earth to operate motors, pumps, arc lamps, and all the components of his ground telephone system.

Knowing these truths, Stubblefield arranged ground rods in very specific locales in order to intercept the electrical waves for power. He knew that these electrical waves would only appear in very specific places, so he did not expect to find them everywhere in abundance. Stubblefield constantly spoke of "working the ground" before power could be taken from it. Stubblefield observed the natural tides and boundaries of the electrical ocean in and around his lovely rural hometown.

Mr. Stubblefield developed a peculiar bi-metallic induction coil which, when buried, draw up sufficient electrical power to operate lamps and other appliances which he designed and tested. A great length of both cotton-insulated copper and bare iron wires were wound together in a "bifilar" arrangement on a large iron stove bolt. The windings were held side by side throughout the coil. His patent specification describes the device as a "terminal, which draws electricity out of the ground".

This successful operation of the device required very specific ground placement. It would not work with equal effectiveness in all locations. A very precise placement of the device required a precise knowledge, which only dowsers have. Stubblefield shared this particular fact with only one person.

I spoke with an academician who had the extreme privilege of speaking with Mr. Stubblefield's son, Bernard Stubblefield. Bernard, by this time himself quite aged, told that his father's method in locating the "right spot" was deliberate and time consuming. His father referred to the device as a "receptive terminal" and not a battery. Despite the insistence of Patent Officers in calling the device a "battery", Stubblefield declared it to be an "energy receiver ... a receptive cell for intercepting electrical ground waves". Its conductive ability somehow absorbs and directs the enormous volumes of earth energy.

The induction coil, which bears his name is equipped with three coils which are wrapped around upon a heavy iron core. Bare iron wire and cotton covered copper wire are wrapped side by side, comprising a primary coil body. Each layer of this primary coil body is covered by a band of cotton insulation, bringing four wire leads to the coil terminus. Two leads of iron and two of copper are external to the coil. Commercial electrical power is obtained through these connective terminals.

In addition to this bimetallic winding, there is a third winding: the "secondary". This third coil is insulated from the primary bimetallic coil, serving as a trigger device. Presumably, a stimulating impulse shock was introduced into the tertiary coil, after which the upwelling electrical ground response brought forth powerful currents in both iron and copper coils.

Electrolytically (as a battery in acid or saltwater) the Stubblefield coil is disappointing; producing less than one volt according to those who have duplicated its construction. Stubblefield's bimetallic coil was a "plug": a receiver, which intercepts the vast and free electrical reservoir of the ground itself. His patent and subsequent company brochures define the manner in which his earth battery was to be activated.

Furthermore, though the Stubblefield power receiver is wound like an induction coil, it produces a steady direct current output. This poses additional problems for the conventional engineers. Electrical induction only occurs with electrical alternations, oscillations, and impulses.

These buried coils may have become saturated with earth electrostatic energy, which traveled from subterranean depths. In such a case, the mere battery power of the coil was replaced by the electrostatic flow, the coil acting as an electrode. This seemed obvious when considering the fact that its ordinary battery current (1 watt) was gradually replaced by a continually growing electrical current of far greater proportion.

Experimenters have observed the "slow accumulation and creep" of current up through vertically buried coils and large solid rods. This current has growth characteristics, which gains strength with lengthened burial time. Buried coils and rods do not give their full output until they have "developed" power over a few hours of time.

Witnesses convey that Mr. Stubblefield's batteries were usually buried at the roots of certain very old oak trees. From these sites it was possible for him to bring small arc lamps to their full candlepower. Tremendous amounts of energy are required for this expenditure of power. Not only was he remarkably able to draw such volumes of current from the ground reservoir for lamp lighting, but the power was available to him throughout the day.

Certain conventional thinkers claimed that the Stubblefield simply used wetcell power for his telephones. Later demonstrations indicate the fundamental error of this conventional view. Stubblefield ran most of his apparatus nonstop for days; without turning off the power. It is more than likely that charged wetcells were used to "jump start" the ground electrode during certain seasons, since the patent reveals that an outer third coil could be added to the copper-iron bimetal.

We do not know the secrets of the earth charge as Nathan determined. Others since this time have observed fluctuations at certain times of the year in ground energy. It may be that a sudden induction is required before the excess ground charge surges to the surface ... like priming a pump. The arc lamps could have been low-pressure gas arc lamps of the kind demonstrated by Daniel MacFarland-Moore; but these required high voltages. Nathan did not utilize such excessive voltages.

When properly placed, the weak power of the Stubblefield "battery" becomes an electrode for the powerful earth charge. But arc lighting and battery charging was not his only specialty; there were other marvels, which he began developing in methodical succession. His bimetallic coil receiver intercepted electrical waves and produced enormous power outputs, which could be modulated: superimposed with additional signals, sounds ... and voices

[jeanna]

MW383,
What is the source for all that?

Some seems to contradict itself, like the secondary not being a secondary but instead a trigger on one part then being the regular secondary on the other.

Also, he did write his own brochure and in it he states that it IS an induction coil as well as a magnetic device. (I want to say fluctuating magnetic, but I am not on the right computer.)

Please let us know how your coils work and any new thoughts you have.

thank you,

jeanna