Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[MW383]

 Jeanna,

very nice videos of your experiments!

the more I think about this thing the more I am intrigued. I remain convinced that, from an electrochemical standpoint, this device will never produce useful current. I sincerely believe that the voltaic electrode pair is just there to attach a voltage.

What I am intrigued with is the bifilar aspect of the coil. We need an expert opinion regarding this part of the design.

I'm going to build a simple iron core - bifilar copper test coil for starters and start getting a feel for it.

I think I am gaining on this thing and just need to keep experimenting !!

Here are a couple of websites I found. They may be repeat from prior posts though.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/nathan-s.htm
http://www.smart90.com/tvimagazine/2005/2705/107GrandpaNat&Firewire01.htm

the second website is a disaster to navigate through but it did have some nice historical information....

[jeanna]

very nice videos of your experiments!

thanks.

I sincerely believe that the voltaic electrode pair is just there to attach a voltage.

What I am intrigued with is the bifilar aspect of the coil.

I agree about the voltaic bit.
I think we are the experts.
So, there is a lot more to do.

I'm going to build a simple iron core - bifilar copper test coil for starters and start getting a feel for it.

Bifilar copper? Do you mean like a joule thief but on a cylindrical core of iron?

I think it will work, then you can make one just the same with copper and iron and see the difference??
That is a very good idea if I am following you.

In june, I stuck a non galvanic ns eer into the slot of a breadboard (when I made the scope movie I was planning to repeat it.) I first made the wires connect as they are in a joule thief.
It worked very well.
My opinion is that NS was the first to invent the joule thief.

I noticed in the brochure snippet I posted yesterday that he said the primary need only be 100 feet.
I have never made one that large.
The longest I ever made the copper wire was 30 feet because that is how it came from the hardware store.

I did take apart a 100 ft tele extension cord and I have used that for jumpers etc.

eesh...

I don't really want to make another but IF I were to do that, I would start with a 2 foot piece of rebar and wind a 100 ft piece of tel wire along side a 100 ft piece of rebar tie wire from a roll, and maybe that would produce something from the earth currents.
I will wait for some cold rainy week to do that!  maybe in january.

I will follow those links. Thank you,

jeanna

[MW383]

Well I built the bifilar test unit. It is very crude, basically iron bolt about 8 inches long (about 3/8" diameter) x 2 copper coils side by side (both insulated) x 3 layers of coils. Wire guage for each was 16 because I wanted to remain in NS construction scale. So coil construction similar to NS, I just removed galvanic aspects from the equation. I will be applying voltages from external battery source.

I am in process in adding a secondary coil to the outside of primary. I'll probably use 30ga wire for this.

What will any of this teach me (if anything)? Not sure but I remain very interested in bifilar coil operation. There has to be a reason he specified this very particular coil arrangement.

[jeanna]

... I just removed galvanic aspects from the equation. I will be applying voltages from external battery source.

Good timing.
I just finished gerry vassilatos' treatise. I remember reading it years ago. I believe this is the one that made me want to try this device myself.
Thanks for the link.

I just want to point out that you may have removed another part from your coil beyond the galvanic.

There very well might be a magnetic activity that goes along the iron wire because it is coupled magnetically with the copper wire.

I do hope you make another one with one strand being iron.

We can then compare ours.
I made a few non galvanic ones and one of them is quite good.

I am glad you are bringing these things up again. I had forgotten to address them and now I understand more, they seem important!

It is great to have you (and protonmom) adding to the Stubblefield experiments.

thank you,

jeanna

[Cap-Z-ro]

Anybody try burying a joule thief yet ?

When considering whether the NS coils should be above ground or not for energy purposes, keep in mind that he had different arrangements for various applications.

Also his "make and brake" comment may refer to a switching mechanism which when synchronized with the pulse of the earth can be made to intensify the return pulse, and in so doing drawing more energy from the earth.

Regards...