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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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electricme

OK All,
Time to get back to the Stubblefield coil machine I am making

Modifications update.
I also found the bottom square steel was far too long, so I grabbed my cutoff wheel and chopped it off.

1672 = Drive side is in the vice, the deed is done, severed.

Next item is to fit a socket onto the tapered square shaft, luckily for me there is a center bolt I can feed through the socket to attach it to the shaft.
The idea I am going with is, it makes no sense to do all this work for only 1 size bolt, so I decided to design the winder jig to accommodate any size bolt and shaft, this gives me much more scope, possibilities are endless now.

1673 = The center bolt can be seen poking through the center of the socket, I am about to screw it to the bearing shaft assembly.

1674 = Socket and bearing and shaft assembled (only hand tightened), I can remove this socket and replace it with a smaller or larger socket.

1675 = This is a side view of just this section, just to give everyone a better idea what I am on about.

1678 = Grab the bolt you are using to be used to wind the bifilar coils on and place the "head" of the built into the sockets end. As you can see, this is what you will end up with if it all goes to plan.

The next step will be to to cut the slide rails for the end securing slide assembly. Before making the slide assembly I need to make the slide structure itself, so I decided to use 2 long sections of square steel as rails, which need to be made before the slide itself.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

Thankyou tishatang

Quote from: tishatang on October 31, 2009, 10:06:24 PM
@electricme
My quick answer is that it will not work.  An inductor will kick back what you put in just like a capacitor.  Even though you pulse the primary, as soon as the pulse stops, the inductor will push back the current you put in.  The secondary will see a distorted AC input signal.  The secondary will tend to smooth it out even more.  The end result will be AC.  You will need the heavy duty diode on the output.

There may be another way to condition the weak cells by radiant conditioning using a Bedini type charger?  Use the search function on this forum and search conditioning batteries, or reconditioning batteries or something like that.  Somewhere I have an article or link.  I will look for it.
I am currently modifying a small plug pack iron transformer, I will produce the results, with my findings, DMM and scope screens.
1679 = Here is my small AC 240v in and AC out, the PCB with bridge and smoothing cap has to be removed.


I am open to what ever results are seen.

Thankyou

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@all

I have an answer to my question of, can I feed pulses of DC into the 240 volt primary of a transformer and get a DC pulse output.

The short answer is, I can feed 240v DC pulses, BUT the effects are disastrous indeed.
I soldered a silicon diode 1N4004 on the active side of the input, neutral to the other end of the primary.

Connected DMM leads and CRO leads to the output.
At switch on, I see on the secondary 0.01 to 0.04 volts DC, but I see 18.0 volts AC, quite amazing and this backs up tishatang's post exactly. As events transpired, I did not have time to take a photo of the DMM readings

I managed to take 1 scope shot before HEAT took a hand in things.
The primary winding went open circuit, I could not hold the transformer, it was far too hot to touch let alone hold.

Surprisingly, the DIODE is quite OK, I am amazed with this experiment, thank you tishatang for your input.

The outcome is IT WONT WORK, proven without doubt.
I submit the scope image which I managed to take just seconds before failure took effect, your remarks will be interresting.
I was in the process of swapping the cro leads to see if the wave form would alter when it went kaput.

My theory is, the energy pulse cannot be transferred to the secondary properly, I don't know why, but the extremely fast heating points me to the collapsing core magnetic field has nowhere to go, it builds up and up and up, the iron becomes saturated and it alters from a magnetic field to heat energy.

This experiment ran for about 2 minutes maximum.

I could have fried an egg on it. lol.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

tishatang

@electricme
Serendipity plays a part in life, especially in science.  You may have just discovered a way to prove excess heat in to an inductor using timed pulses.  See the the Rosemary Aimslee thread.  That thread is a barrel of snakes and a big pissing contest if it is OU or not.  Partly because they are using small resistor inductors.  The small currents and heat are subject to measurement errors.  You, on the other hand may have found an experiment you can grab onto.  Or not, if it's too hot!  WE all need an efficient heater.  It's already starting to be a cold winter.  You might want to tell Rosemary what you did and let her see if it is related to her patent?

tishatang

jeanna

Quote from: electricme on November 01, 2009, 12:44:12 AM


The short answer is, I can feed 240v DC pulses, BUT the effects are disastrous indeed.


I take it this is a rectified pulse from a wall outlet?

QuoteI managed to take 1 scope shot before HEAT took a hand in things.
That shot is very much like a wave I see on the earth battery a lot.
It is a little crooked. The earth battery one is more symmetrical, but more like it than anything else I have seen.

Quote...

The outcome is IT WONT WORK, proven without doubt.
I submit the scope image which I managed to take just seconds before failure took effect,


I could have fried an egg on it. lol.

Hmm we were just talking about using pulses to make an immersion heater.. ;D

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If this came from the wall, I would say I am not sure it is proved.
Until you take a joule thief or something else that cannot in any way borrow from the power company, I am not convinced.

On the other hand, I too have had very little success using pulses across a transformer to do anything.
But I would have thought I had something if my earth battery produced heat somewhere!

I have had results by using those pulses in series with a coil.
-Pulses into the wire of a coil in series with the pulses, not across the coil.

You could try that. It is an interesting experiment,

thank you,

jeanna

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Good idea Tishatang!