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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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protonmom

Guruji,
I suppose there ARE other earth batteries out there that may use aluminum.  And I guess I mis-read you because I thought you had said you were putting the wires together bare, and clearly now I see that is NOT what you said.  My mistake.  The only thing I can tell you is that if you follow Stubblefield's patent then you should come up with the same as I.  Just be very careful and take  your time winding.  This is my 4th NS EB, and I was determined to do it right this time.
As for you thinking I am hiding anything:
I am not sure what to say..... ???  If I had wanted to hide anything I never would have said a word.   Rest assured that is NOT my intention.

Now an update:  Remember I said take your time and wind carefully?  Well, guess what?  I found a short!  So now I am in the process of un-winding the whole shebang and starting it anew.  But that is good, because now I can take notes....and I am sure that short is the reason the cap was charging so slowly.  I will have it all back together, hopefully by tomorrow...and then will start charging again.  I think it might be best if I totally discharge the cap and start fresh with that, too. (or use the new one)  Anyone know HOW I should go about discharging the 650F boostcap?  Gadget are you there?????  Or, should I just leave what little juice is in there and continue where I left off, as soon as the coil is back together?  Advice, anyone?


Pirate88179

protonmom:

Please be very careful with the boost cap when discharging it.  That thing can exceed over 3,000 amps (not mA's) and if you short it to discharge, it will melt even a very heavy gauge wire in a millisecond!!!  (Plenty more than is needed to kill you as only 1/10 of an amp will do it)

While you are rewinding and fixing your coil, why not just hook your b-cap up to a jt circuit or something similar and let it run some lights for you?  Or, just leave it charged as it is until you get the other coil back up?

Gadget knows more about these caps than I  do.  You could try to pm him.  I just wanted to warn you of the dangers in case you were not aware, which you probably were which is why you were asking how to discharge it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

resonanceman

I was reading a book  on Terslas  work  studying for my hairpin  thread.......I stumbled across  something that gave me another theory about  the Stubblefield battery

This  book  had a page of pictures of armatures from motors Tesla invented........it breafly explained some  of them.

One of them was described  as  Iron bars cast into  a copper cylinder
It said that  it worked because the PHASE  of iron and copper were different.

This phase  difference is clearly  enough to drive a motor.

If it applies to  currents in conductors  ......then  a  Stubblfield  cell might  work  exactly like  a Sterling engine.

I will explain

Assuming  we start  with a pulse across the  copper and iron  coils.
The  pulse  will induce  a pulse in the metal that has  leads  the other  in phase ......the   pulse  will then be drawn into the other winding because  it following  just behind  the first coil

Now.........BOTH of these coils will  be creating a magnetic field  and  flyback  as the fields collapse

When  BOTH coils  are at their  combined peak ....  The voltage may be high enough  to  create a powerful pulse in the secondary.

I am thinking that the  3 coils  have to be connected in series ........ faster primary metal........ slower primary metal ......secondary

IF  the secondary is large enough that  the  flyback pulse from the  pulse collapsing  is enough  to  induce  a pulse to the  primary winding then  we have  a complete loop .......an electrical sterling engine

The output  would be  between the  end of the secondary  and the  start of the faster metal primary


I am thinking that this thing would produce pulsing DC ........because it  looks to me like the pulses would  be sucked into the next stage  as it rotates around the circuit.

If all these coils were tuned to earth energy frequencys  a starting pulse might not  be needed.

I have no idea if the galvanic  effect  of the battery is needed  for this process ...... clearly  if it would run well without  the galvanic process the cell would last longer.


gary


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It would be nice  if someone  with a dual trace scope and  a Stubblfield battery  could test this theory  for me.

All that would be required is to apply  a signal  to  the seconmdary  of a stubblfield  coil  ( maybe from a JT  )
The   scope leads go  to the  copper and iron  windings.
It  would  be ideal if  one of  the metals lagged behind by  around 90 degrees ......like  a sterling




protonmom

resonance man;
You said: 

>>I was reading a book  on Terslas  work  studying for my hairpin  thread.......

I stumbled across  something that gave me another theory about  the Stubblefield battery

This  book  had a page of pictures of armatures from motors Tesla invented........it breafly explained some  of them.<<


What book was this so I can look it up?  It sounds interesting, and perhaps I could understand what you are saying if I read the book/article.

Thanks in advance.


protonmom

Pirate;
Thanks.  Yes, I was aware of the dangers as Gadget had told me about that.  I just didn't know exactly how to discharge it.  I don't need any fried fingers, or worse! 
I had company all day, so tomorrow I will start on the new coils...and the repair of this one too.  All newbeez would be wise to learn from my mistakes or the mistakes made by any of the other members...so then they can avoid making those same errors. 

All;
Anyone seen or heard from Gadget lately?