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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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IotaYodi

Soft iron is a general term for high iron content. It also has large eddy currents.  Using iron with silicone reduces the eddy currents. The rod on ebay will work just because of high iron content but whats the carbon content etc: Ive ordered 2 different types of iron cores. The 1018 is the most common in the world and probably is what NS had in his bolt.

Chemistry information for alloy 1018 Carbon
Element    Percentage
C    0.14 - 0.2
Fe    98.81 - 99.26
Mn    0.6 - 0.9
P    0.04 max
S    0.05 m

Im wondering what the copper would do with a36 with this coil.
Chemistry information for alloy A36 Mild Steel
Element    Percentage
C    0.26
Cu    0.2
Fe    99
Mn    0.75
P    0.04 max
S    0.05 max

The 4130 would even be better with its silicone content which I will try out too.
Chemistry information for alloy 4130 Carbon
Element    Percentage
C    0.28 - 0.33
Cr    0.8 - 1.1
Fe    97.3 - 98.22
Mn    0.4 - 0.6
Mo    0.15 - 0.25
P    0.035 max
S    0.04 max
Si    0.15 - 0.35

http://www.onlinemetals.com/index.cfm

Right now I have some 3/4 inch iron rod from the local machine shop that looks good but dont the number. Putting it on some strong toroid magnets it showed nothing on monitor test. I then made an electromagnet with a 1 foot piece with a 12 volt high amp car battery using #12 wire for about ten seconds, which is when it started smoking. A very strong magnet and field was made. It was about a foot from the monitor and made quite an impression on it. Then I disconnected it and put it up to the monitor and it showed very little remanence. Very high iron content indeed.

I plan on using #14 cotton wire from a company in the states. A 500 foot roll would be more expensive to ship from outside the states. I planned on buying the galvanized iron wire from tractor supply unless some knows a better place with higher iron content. As has been stated before, the bigger the wire and amount of turns the more power.

Info for those using reed switches.
http://www.meder.com/fileadmin/meder/pdf/en/Parameters_of_Reed_Switch.pdf
From reading this it seems a reed switch should be kept at a distance from the strong magnetic field of the coil?




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@IotaYodi
Can you share the contact info for the company stateside that carries cotton-covered wire? I've spent hours searching, but haven't found anything worthwhile.
Thanks
Darryl


jeanna


Mk1

@all

I was thinking that most solenoid arms would do great , i have some rod from electromagnets that could do great also .

Also some observation of the patent and winding technique , the way it is tough in the patent is to increase surface area for a stronger battery , now the question is do we really need that many turns , because it would be simpler to use copper and alu or iron sheet with a cotton divider ..

I know some see some other source for the power but if you refer to the patent the word galvanic is mentioned quite often , 6 times in 2 paragraph ...
A meter will pickup static electricity ...

What did the jt show us the minimal limit of the battery is only limited by the circuits transistor , the output is over all the same ... With the reed switch the minimum got way lower .

Now also the physical limits of the rotor is the issue for real high freq and hysteresis curve of the core , but i think if the 2 side of the kick could get it to go faster , the number of magnets on the rotor will also permit higher freq the rotor physical limits are achieved .

Also the core configuration is not that great for secondary because it is so far from the core , the optimal distance for a powered coil is irrelevant but it is not the case for pickup coil , i could see tow futures for this devise first using a square core the ns coil on one side the pickup coil on the other side with one corner of the square open for the rotor .

Or making four of them putting them in a cross design with a big rotor with 2 rows of magnets one for each end of the coils , gathering both side of the ns coil for momentum on the rotor , this would mean that we could put more weight on the rotor and get help from inertia and sentrifusional  effect , that motor could most likely run a generator ...

Any way those are my 2 cents , keep the great work everyone .


Mark