Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[IotaYodi]

So are figures just figurative then?

Yes. They were hand drawn at that time. Plus being copied,scanned,resized can result in distortion. If you notice figure 2 on the patent its not that extreme. You would want symmetrical windings for a uniform field.
Another thing is the self generating electromagnet. The patent states to tie terminals 5&6 together. Others have found that is not the case. Its one inner and one outer wire or a 5 or a 6 to its opposite inner 10. You still need sufficient v/a in order to sustain the self generation.
Seeing how the input current is always the south magnetic pole,and the exit current is always the north magnetic pole,its easy to follow. The patent states that the inner terminals are used for the input. But you can use either the inner or outer wires as the input side and it makes no difference.
Your multiple windings would be hard to do but interesting.   

From a field standpoint, what makes the most sense? Any opinion welcome....

With the Iron wires magnetic field a uniform winding to me. If the wires cross Im seeing a distorted magnetic field with more eddy currents.   

 

[MW383]

A few random thoughts....

If we considered the copper and iron windings as seperate coils, and we used Tishitang idea of running them in opposite polarity, and enough power was moving through....I think this could explain the reports of glowing hillsides. Basically you have a localized aurora borealis deal occuring or something like this. Some chap did a large coil where he ran things in this opposition mode and he noted a dim blue glow coming off the coil. I'll have to dig up the info on that. Maybe it is even posted in here someplace but I think he has a webpage. If memory serves, he was running some pretty high power into the coil to get the glowing effect. I'm thinking Tishitang may have it right as far as how to run these coils. If Stubblefield's glowing hills are due to the same effect, then it is further evidence he had a lot of power running through his coils and he was running each in opposition to the other. Lot's of assumptions here so when I have a coil built, I will force feed it power in this manner and see what effects are noted.

What do we know about NS powering devices from the EB? I see mention of lights, motors, etc... That's cool but do we know any specifics or if any conversion was done between EB and a particular device? I am assuming they were all DC. Just curious...

[MW383]

I recall reading somewhere about scalar waves in relation to the NS coil. When I read this I didn't understand it. I have not tangled with this scalar wave subject or know anything about it. All I know is that it is quite contraversial. At any rate, I found some interesting info regarding so called scalar wave antennas.
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Scalar antenna examples
1 A single-wire bifiliar scalar antenna is a single coil of wire that is wrapped clockwise for one layer, then wrapped with a counterclockwise layer, reversing the wrap direction for each layer. The magnetic field forces between each layer effectively cancel each other out.
2 A dual-wire bifiliar scalar antenna employs two separate opposing layers of wire that can be powered from two separate power sources, or cross-connected to power both coils in opposition to each other from a single power source, as with the single-wire bifiliar.
3 A pancake bifiliar scalar antenna is a flat disc with paired spirals of overlapping, opposing coils.
4 A cone bifiliar scalar antenna is like the flat ring, but just cone-shaped.
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Obviously item #2 matches up with Tishitang's various descriptions of operation + his diagrams. I'm not sure if he based his theories off supposed scalar waves or made the scalar wave connection after his theories but it looks like a clear match to me. Furthermore, Bedini makes mention of connecting wires on the ends (series). Was he wiring like statement #2 above? It would look a lot easier to simply cross connect the coils (Cu connected to Fe) and use single power source than it would to be trying to manage two seperate power sources. In this case I believe there are only two people recommending this method of construction (other than Tishitang's dual supply version.

The guy who ran the heavily powered opposition coil ,mentioned in my last post, seemed to report clearing the clouds above his place. I mention this because, from an agricultural standpoint, there are devices termed as 'radionic'. They also operate on ground energy principals. Their purpose is to increase plant growth in a field. They sell them and many large farming operations (animal grazing based + standard crops) buy them to this day. Bedini also reported extreme plant growth. There are clear reports from farmers using these things that state an increase in rain as well (or more clouds). So you can eliminate clouds around you one way, add them around you another way /get rain out of the deal.

It is also interesting to note that Tesla studied NS coil hard and then came up with pancake versions of it, including the feild cancelling version. Tesla wouldn't think too hard on anything that had no interesting merits. And also interesting is the fact that NS coil can be made to be a standard induction coil, or be made to do all of these other strange things.

[IotaYodi]

I'm not sure if he based his theories off supposed scalar waves

Nah. His was series resonance. The battery he put in was just to prime the area with the relay/vibrator for resonance. He just made a mistake in the diagram as the relay should be normally open. Once brought into operation the battery is no longer needed.

To have this make or break in the patent only makes sense if you are using resonant circuits.  The same reason he used high Q winding techniques.  These are resonant circuits.  Everything points to it.

Even though the iron and copper coils are linked together as a bifilar winding, they can each have different resonant frequencies.  The make or break will ring them both.  Look back to the Q reference at the beginning of this thread and see the graph.  The higher the Q, the longer the ring.

This primes the pump, so to speak, and gets things going into resonance.  Then the battery and the relay are no longer needed.  You collect your power through the normally closed switch.  The pumping action conditions the immediate area.  The longer you pump the EB, the bigger your conditioned area will become.  You can add a feedback loop to sustain operation.  If earth currents shift or weaken, you can prime the pump again to get things going.  Once conditioned, it takes less energy to sustain the field.  To get it going again might be as easy as sparking the wire as you touch it to connect.

Knowing these principles, you can can design your own version of the patent.  It can be bigger or smaller.  Smaller means higher frequencies.  Bigger means lower frequencies.  Normally, the lower frequencies carry more energy.  I say start with what you have on hand to prove the principle.  Try and use natural insulation materials instead of plastic.  Fiberglass and resin are OK for insulation.  I have a feeling modern magnet wire is OK as long as the coating is not plastic. Be sure and use the wood ends and cotton wrap between layers of the coils and the core.  I will explain why later.

[electricme]

@ Bill,

Looks like a good joint to me.  Did you by chance check the resistance of the 2 wires joined before your joint that you made?  I am not saying it will make any difference....probably not but, this thought just occurred to me after reading your post.

Hi Bill,
No, I didn't even think to check the joint, suppose I should of though, allthough on the next coil I make I intend to do what Lasersaber has done, use only continuous single lengths of wire, well, you got to use what you have available at the time and this is a big learning experience for me.


I am on layer 11 but I have noticed something with my coil which I'm rebuilding.
During rewinding, I have noticed the layers in the beginning, from 1 to 5 and 6, did not seem to effect the shorted turn tester weather the layers were wet or dry. However I have noticed a change happening.

I have permanently mounted to one of the coils wooden ends, a shorted turns tester, so when I short the wires being wound onto the coil, the 3v bulb lights, release the wires, the short is removed and the bulb goes out.

I began to do what Lasersaber had done in his videos, as I wound each layer of the completed coil, test for voltage and current
Gradualarly I noticed by about the 6-7 layers and more, the bulb began to light until by the beginning of the 11th layer, it was quite bright.
I was beginning to think there was another short somewhere, so I stopped the coil winding. The coil began to dry out and the bulb began to dim during the shorted turns test.
The coil is now dry again and when I do a shorted turns test, the bulb behaves like it should, lights only when shorting the wires.
I think if the coil is wet, then the longer the wires are, the lower resistance becomes and it indicates a variable short.
When the coil dries out, then the indicated "short" diminishes until there is no short, so I am under the impression If I continue more layers I should be OK.


I am beginning to think that coil capacitance is also coming into play, I have noticed when I do a shorted turns test, the voltmeter registers 2.5volts across the copper and steel wires, turn off the switch and the voltage remains in the coil but it begins to drop slowly until it reaches the level that is being made by the coil itself.
Once again the drier the coil, the lower the voltage, I expect on a day with high humidity the coil will give a little more output.
This also is reflected in Nathan Stubblefield remarking that the earth is the place to make the coil work, it would save wetting the coil, the earth does this for us automatically.

 
I expect as I wind on each level of coils, this retaining of voltage is going to increase, in other words it will take longer to diminish back to background levels, this could get interresting.
mA are also rising as each level is completed.

Just thought people might like to know this.

jim