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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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Pirate88179

@ Freezer:

I agree with you except, just remember, there were no power companies in the area at the time of Stubblefield's successes so he must have figured out something else.  That is what I am looking for.  I have not attempted his coil setups as of yet as I wanted to just get enough free electricity from the earth to light several leds which I have done.  I will now be shifting gears a bit. I disagree with Dr. Stiffler that this is just the same as a lemon battery.  Do lemon batteries produce amps?  Can they light and heat houses and run a city telephone system? This is what Stubblefield has done.  I very much agree that Dr. Stiffler has much expertise and knowledge that would help us here.  We might already be getting close to making enough power to run his circuit.  That would be something to see.

@ Hans:

After reading your post I now have to re-think my ideas.  I was thinking of these cells as "antennas" of sorts but, this clearly says that is not the case.  More learning on my part to do.  Thank you for posting that and putting me back on the right road.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Freezer

I agree Bill, as I saw that video posted of the earth cell being done out in the middle of nowhere and it worked just as well.

Bruce_TPU

Woa....guys!  A lot of assumptions.  This is a well known item, called Telluric Current.  I am not interested in taking current from the house.  If I wanted to do that, I have outlets.   ;D

I tried this far from anything, in a field, and you still get readings, North and South.  I live far from any neighbors and further from any town.  So it is not that.   ;)

Also, the type of metal is indeed important.  You can not tell me that carbon spaced 10 feet away from zinc is caused by galvanic interaction.  No  way, no how.

Also, beyond that, if true, then any old direction would work, not North and South.  And South would not ALWAYS be negative and North positive, as it is now.

The Telluric Current is DC according to the scientific papers I have read.  It is well known.  It is untapped.

@ All
I cut a foot of carbon from my  long pipe, and placed it on the same line as the neutral zinc line running east west.  NO increase in ma's at all.  I then tried Copper pipe in line with my neutral zinc and the ma's went down by 1/2.

I placed the carbon in series with my other carbon and got a small bump in voltage, now up to .875 volts @ .248 ma's.  Waiting on the magnesium.  I think that magnesium plates and carbon plates is the way to go. 

@ Dr. Shiffler
"Now we still have the wavelength issue, but what about building a coil with a variable capacitor and placing it in the earth on a plastic pipe handle so it can be rotated. This would allow the coil to be turned and pickup the best of the tuned earths variable waves." 

This is a good experiment to be tried.  What type of coil, made from what.  On an air core?  Iron core?  Any ideas would be helpful.  Thank you.

@ Jeanna
Carbon is typical for a positive electrode. 
http://electrochem.cwru.edu/ed/encycl/art-c01-carbon.htm


Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

onhold

Quote from: btentzer on January 10, 2008, 07:40:51 PM
Woa....guys!  A lot of assumptions.  This is a well known item, called Telluric Current.  I am not interested in taking current from the house.  If I wanted to do that, I have outlets.   ;D

I tried this far from anything, in a field, and you still get readings, North and South.  I live far from any neighbors and further from any town.  So it is not that.   ;)

Also, the type of metal is indeed important.  You can not tell me that carbon spaced 10 feet away from zinc is caused by galvanic interaction.  No  way, no how.

Also, beyond that, if true, then any old direction would work, not North and South.  And South would not ALWAYS be negative and North positive, as it is now.

The Telluric Current is DC according to the scientific papers I have read.  It is well known.  It is untapped.

@ All
I cut a foot of carbon from my  long pipe, and placed it on the same line as the neutral zinc line running east west.  NO increase in ma's at all.  I then tried Copper pipe in line with my neutral zinc and the ma's went down by 1/2.

I placed the carbon in series with my other carbon and got a small bump in voltage, now up to .875 volts @ .248 ma's.  Waiting on the magnesium.  I think that magnesium plates and carbon plates is the way to go. 

@ Dr. Shiffler
"Now we still have the wavelength issue, but what about building a coil with a variable capacitor and placing it in the earth on a plastic pipe handle so it can be rotated. This would allow the coil to be turned and pickup the best of the tuned earths variable waves." 

This is a good experiment to be tried.  What type of coil, made from what.  On an air core?  Iron core?  Any ideas would be helpful.  Thank you.

@ Jeanna
Carbon is typical for a positive electrode. 
http://electrochem.cwru.edu/ed/encycl/art-c01-carbon.htm


Cheers,
Bruce

Hi all!

I signed up hoping Dr. Stiffler signs on? "Please"

The normal earth currents are of such wave length that I am under the impression that the electrodes would have to be 10's of km apart?

When I was a kid I ran a single transistor radio off two rebars in the ground so I know something is there but maybe not much unless you tap it properly. If it is okay with the group and the Dr joins in I would like to join in?

Localjoe

@onhold
Theres always room for more.. but i hope i understand you right when you say you'd like to join us not just because another member has commented... that might freak him out a bit and he seems to be a nice guy
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..