Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

Thanks Joe, you read my mind.  Since I switched to Firefox for my browser a few weeks ago, I lost a good many of my bookmarks and links.  I just got back from the home supply store. (Lowes)  I got 2 more zinc coated iron spikes 12" long, 55 cents ea. and 100 feet of iron fence wire that my magnet is attracted to. That's all I needed, I believe I have everything else.  Time to go to work.

Bill

[Localjoe]

@ All

lines 62-85 Of the patent are the most important part to understand i feel after the construction is completed.  Unless you read this section very carefully its easy to pass over a few key points.

He described physically 2 configurations of his device

1) ***practically***  a self-generating induction-coil-  practically is the part i will get to in a moment - practically meaning almost! 




I cant believe i finally figured this freakin patent out this was defiantly hidden in a way so the normal person would pass over.

in lines  63-75

The magnetic field produced by the current traversing the coil-body 4**(the inner bifiliar wind) induces a secondary current in the solenoid or secondary coil 12,
when the ordinary make and break of the primary current produced within the coil 4 is made between the terminals of said coil 4. It will therefore be seen that the construction
of the battery illustrated in Fig. 4 is practically a self-generating induction-coil..

In english We need a mechanical spark gap driven by a small dc motor or something that will accomplish the same task of mechanically doing this task as quoted "When the ordinary make and break of the primary current produced within the coil 4 is made between the terminals of said coil 4"  It will therefore be seen that the construction
of the battery illustrated in Fig. 4 is practically a self-generating induction-coil..                        THAT IS WHAT THE PRACTICALLY IS.. Something that makes and breaks the connection with the primary therefor inducing a secondary current in outer secondary wind... 

So what this patent says is you can have a self generating induction coil as long as you preform the normal make and break of the primary terminals DUH..


2) a self-sustaining  electromagnet

Lines 76 -86

It will also be obvious that by reason
of the magnetic inductive properties of
the coil-body 4 the core-piece 1 will necessarily
be magnetized while a current is going
through the body 4, so that the battery
may be used as a self-generating electromagnet,
if so desired, it being- observed that to secure
this. result is simply required connecting
the extended terminals of the wires 5 and
6 together after wetting or dampening the
coil-body.

This makes sense this version is how the wireless phone worked .. yay two for 1 yay anyways the difference is this one has one set of copper and iron wires from the inner coil shorted so as to make this an electromagnet.  When you connect a microphone to the secondary wires or a telephonic relay ... it will transmit .. this must be the base station model.. 

Lines 58 -62

***the solenoid or secondary coil may be connected up with any instrument usually operated by secondary
currents?such, for instance, as a microphone
transmitter or telegraphic relay.***

This Is describing the latter invention the Self Sustaining Electromagnet

Now hopefully everyone sees how clever he was when he hid how to make it a self generating induction coil.. within the instructions for the base station transmitter...sneaky sneaky

It took a while because the workings of the two separate inventions are not in order when you read the patent and are mixed up.. weird.. classic tesla

Please respond and tell me what you think folks

[Pirate88179]

@ Joe:

Excellent deduction there.  I never would have seen it.  If you are correct, and I believe that you are, then could we not use something Stubblefield did not have at that time to "make and break" the current such as an ic timer or other such electronic device?  A motor or something mechanical yes, but we could go for the solid state approach could we not?  Your find here changes everything.  Great work.  I would like to see what Hans thinks about this also.

Bill

[Localjoe]

@Bill i made few edits so make sure to re read the end its important

[jeanna]

Very good, Joe,
I do think this is the key. This is why I need to remake mine with lots of good windings.

Why don't you think the pulses of earth's currents are what is giving the make and break. If there is no inherent reason for this to be in the earth and not just moist in a room somewhere, then why is it called an earth battery? I mean what is the earth providing if not this make and break? He says you can put it in a jar. but if you did, then YOU would have to provide the make and beak?

Didn't people say these batteries worked long after they had been abandoned?
good work, joe.

jeanna

PS
So, Joe and Bill,
Is there a reason you are using zinc and not the iron that stubblefield describes?