Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Localjoe]

@jenna

zinc was all i had handy

Now listen close And think like a detective ... half the point of that whole thing I typed was so everyone understands why he used the words "Practically Self Generating Induction coil"

One thinks to themselves.. practically what the heck is that suspost to mean practically.. The prior sentace explains

"When the ordinary make and break of the
primary current produced within the coil 4 is
made between the terminals of said coil 4. It             (one iron one copper terminal)
will therefore be seen that the construction
of the battery illustrated in Fig. 4 is practically  ****(Figure 4 Sows the battery with all terminals open not shorted)*****
a self-generating induction-coil

So in response to this speifically
"Why don't you think the pulses of earth's currents are what is giving the make and break. If there is no inherent reason for this to be in the earth and not just moist in a room somewhere, then why is it called an earth battery? I mean what is the earth providing if not this make and break?"

I say this-  WHEN you make or preform the ordinary make and break of primary - when imply's that its an action that is preformed

So when you do that you can see in figure 4 ***look at it*** all the wires are open  that it is **practically** a self generating induction coil because there is no apparatus or person shown makeing and breaking the connection   hopefully you agree now

Note well Nathan did not want to call his patent earth battery ... it was suspost to be a means for a self generating induction coil .. this is touched on somewhere on bedini's page  So that should answer your second question too 

As far as why is it in the earth .. we can call that variable x .. bill will agree that theres something else there we cant explain and hopefully this config will let us capture it.

Im pumped this is all fitting into place

[Pirate88179]

@ Joe:

I re-read your post.  It is all there all right.  Still, I never would have caught that.

@Jeanna:

I am using the zinc coated spikes (galvanized) for several reasons.  They are readily available and cheap.  I used my magnet in the store when sampling materials and my magnet is very strongly attracted to these spikes, much more so than their "iron" rods which were about $10 ea. as opposed to 50 cents.  So, I believe there is plenty of iron in the zinc coated spikes.  also, zinc is further away from copper on the galvanic chart than is iron.  The bigger difference helped in my earlier experiments so, I figured it could not hurt to try it again.  If you can find real iron somewhere locally, then you might want to go with that.  I found the same with "iron wire" I tried to buy the other day.  It pays to place a magnet in your pocket, which is what I did.  the first iron wire was obviously made from some other material as it was not magnetically attracted in the least.  The wire I purchased today was.  Hope this explains my reasoning.

Bill

[jeanna]

OK so,it is not necessary to add something to make and break. I thought you were saying this needed to be added.

I see the word practically meaning 'practically speaking' not 'almost'. I wasn't sure how you were taking that meaning.

I see make and break as a sort of forward and backward pulse- "ac" before the term was widely used -across the wire.

Electrodes 10 sticking up in the patent may be attached to the wires that go down into the earth in the picture because they are the ones that "preserve the character of the wires as the electrodes of the voltaic couple". (Lines 18-20 p2)

I didn't get much for volts in my spike in the kitchen an hour ago, but it sure did go up and down from 0.035 pos to 0.035 neg. so there is a pulse going on.

I guess we just gotta build them to find out.

I am sure if you want to add something of your own doing, it will work; probably be stronger.

I am so glad you brought this all up. I never noticed the 2 part nature of the thing. I never read it really thoroughly.

Thank you.

@Bill,yes, it does. I will try the magnet thing with my wire. the spikes are pretty good and 39c so they must be just plain soft iron.

This is sooo cool

jeanna

[Localjoe]

@ Jenna .. I hope im not speaking greek


IM saying we do i repeat do need something to preform the make and break... thats what the patent wants you to infer on your own .. Thats the whole clever part

[jeanna]

@all
The negative terminal of my battery is the spike. I get the best reading fluctuating between 0.100vdc and -0.066vdc between the twisted lower wires and the spike while leaving the 2 top wires (10) untouched. In fact I get nothing between those 2. I must touch the spike.

And this a really bad looking winding.

jeanna

PS OK I hear you, Joe