Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[hansvonlieven]

@ Jeanna

This is Tesla's idea of a bifilar coil

Hans

[jeanna]

As to the rest, I do not know what to make of the AC stuff, not yet anyway. Clearly Stubblefield expects AC or pulsed DC or his secondary coil does not make sense. As to where this comes from is anyones guess at the moment.

Hans von Lieven

I probably shouldn't be saying this (at my level of engineering experience   ) but it makes sense to me. It is why I kept getting confused with Joe's comments. I see pulsed DC or AC in this bifilar wind.
As I see this 'coil body' (4) is setting up a moving charge in the copper wire which causes a magnetic field in the surrounding space which magnetizes the iron wire (read the compass at the very end of either iron wire) which in turn continues to stimulate the electric field in the copper wire and so on. The heavier iron stake maintains the magnetic something and is there as a repository for this induced magnetism. I think it kicks itself.

I think the galvanic part since it is miniscule is there to butter the works a bit in the beginning.

BTW silk is way thinner than cotton. The wires are so close on the ones I made with silk you could hear them hitting each other through the cloth.  Silk is also a better dielectric than cotton. Bill has probably proved this advantage with the salt problem.

So, LETS BUILD EM!

jeanna

[hansvonlieven]

You are amazing Jeanna,

This is exactly the way I have been thinking all along ever since I studied the patent in detail.

Hans

[Localjoe]

@ hans

the rapid decomposition only happened when i hooked the meter to it set to the ma reading amperage.

So this is where im commign from with the capicator idea

An electrolyte is any substance containing free ions that behaves as an electrically conductive medium, electrolyte solutions are normally formed when a salt is placed into a solvent such as water .

Further -Galvanic corrosion is a process that degrades metals electrochemically. This corrosion occurs when two dissimilar metals are placed in contact with each other in the presence of an electrolyte, such as salt water, forming a galvanic cell.

If this is a galvanic cell salt water should increase output .  Not hinder or negate it. 

Now this galvanic process is an electrochemical process - my mind wanders for a moment and comes back with .. can i form a magnetic path for the ion current in water?as opposed to the electrochemical one which is usually formed in a conductive electrolyte through lets say the salt's ions ?

Ion current is that which allows the electrical process to happen.  Here is my theory which may be right or wrong as to how this works.
Water  Has dipole movement... this may be very very important......  water can become polarized.   I think there is a chance that this cell polarizes the water dipole movement kind of re routing its normal path CREATING MAGNETIC ION CURRENT FLOW and is able to do this because of the two different kind of metals. As opposed to the Electrochemical Ion flow of a normal galvanic cell.

I may have opened up a can of worms because technically we have a combination of a galvanic cell and a electrolytic cell.  The galvanic cell states that the electrodes are in seperate containers connected by a salt bridge for the ion current to move through.. this is not our case both our electrodes are in the same container and not isolated by a conductive bridge.  So while we have to metals producing a current and voltage its not the classical galvanic cell.  The electrolytic cell is not suspost to produce power, and it is said to have the same electrode material.  i came to the conclusion that the primary part of this earth battery coil body 4 just the primary coil and bolt, are a self generating electrolytic cell .. instead of putting voltage in and splitting the water or electroplating The wires are producing voltage while submerged in a strong dielectric this shouldn't happen... the only way i was able to even come up with a theory as to how it did was when i started thinking about the water and its dipole movement and how a magnetic feild could influence that or direct it.  Whether right or wrong the above still doe sent quite fit so its worth investigation.

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