Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[sid10]

@ Joe
No what I am saying is that water conducts electricty unless it is pure.
And unles Webster is Wrong dielectric means nonconductive.
edit,
I should have said a poor conducter.
Sid

[Localjoe]

@ Sid
Your wrong  Im sorry  to say again. Skrew websters go test it like i did..
There is a breakdown point But your still completly missing what i  am saying..

A dilectric constant would imply that there are different levels of conductivity leading to non conductive.

Ok The reading i get from the two metals in my primary should not be .8v and some 20 ma.           

I'll get distilled mineral free from price choopper tomororw and prove it. you can do the same.

The reason it is such a good dielectric is that it is a polar molecule - the h-o-h bonding angle is not straight. This means that it can be polarized by an electric field - and this is the main characteristic of a good dielectric.

Take a small cup of water take a double a battery hook a small flashlight bulb to it on the postitve side take the neg side of the bulb and jumper it to a small peice of tin foil  take the - side of the battery and jumper it to small peice of tin foil.      Now heres the deal when you put both peices in a little bit.. nada little more nada all the way .. maybe a dim light  , now try the light with just the battery. nice and bright.   Now go back to putting the peices in the water and add some salt.. awsome works great... bright light. ya right


Why would our cell short with salt in the water.. and not work..  Here in bills mistake lies the key,  Water is barley conductive at all unless at high voltage and thats a different set of rules..   So the water here is a strong  dielectric whether you want to admit it or not.  If it were conductive as you say our apparatus would not work. the water serves a different purpose than an electrolyte here even tho he calls it that. Either way if my cell shows the same or better readings in distilled that should do it for you. 

This looks to be a galvanic action yet is not setup like one the only real answer is that that there is another unknown process creating these voltage readings... you got .4 volts i got .8 volts we should not gain voltage from increased surface area or more of the same wire.. at least not a half a volt difference , i could see the amperage being different but something else is happening between the water and the two primary wires which is allowing them to generate voltage and current without and apparant ion current.... this should not happen in these facts lie our answer. 

[MrSpates]

Not meaning to be a sore thumb or anything, but if you throw a plugged in electric fan or hair dryer in a bathtub, well, I wouldn't want to be in the bathtub.

[jeanna]

Joe, I will answer your questions, but I need to put the answer together. I believe if you are seeing .8v with iron and copper you are seeing something remarkable.

I actually thing there is some zinc in the mix on the iron side. You have the fingerprint voltage of cu-zn.  This is the coil body 4 alone -  Or you have something remarkable.

I don't care how much salt is in your tap water. A saturated solution (one where there is a little undissolved salt at the bottom) isn't enough to make .8v from iron and copper.
this is the only answer I can give for now.
I am measuring.

I'll be back

jeanna

[sid10]

Yes just like we used a tractor battery to shock up fish in a pond. Admittaly a large battery but still just 12 volts.
Sid