Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Joe:

Just so you understand....based on that guy's response to me on youtube, we were talking of not exactly putting juice into the coils but, and it may only work with the separate electrodes, by having a regular rechargeable battery in the circuit he claimed that this battery charged more than it was drained by the load. (lights)  The idea (theory) is that whatever the load takes from the rechargeable battery, the earth (from the electrodes) puts back in, and then some.  I think this is what we are talking about investigating. I didn't know if you were clear on that.  I am still hunting around here for a rechargeable battery large enough to light up a small incandescent type bulb so I can try it with both the electrode style, and coil style earth battery in this arrangement.  It would be fantastic if it works.

PS  I just had a thought about your other post Joe.  Do we need a high dielectric material between the primary and the secondary?  I was just going to use cotton but, now that I think about what you said with the wood, if the voltage gets high enough, it could easily pass back to the primary through the cotton could it not?  Maybe we need like heat shrink tubing or some other stronger insulator here?  If somehow we get into the 10,000 volts or so range, that spark could jump a long way and the primary is just sitting there very close-by.  What do you think?


@ Bruce:

Nice secondary.  Did you wind two separate/different wire types so you can see which performs better?  I think most of the Tesla type coils use enamel coated wire for secondaries.  It looks good.  I like Joe's idea that the faster you pulse it, the higher the voltage will be.  Also, if we can hit the "resonance" freq. somehow (it will be different I am sure for all of us due to the variance in materials used and windings and size) I bet we would see a huge jump in the output.  I can't wait to get to that step.

Bill

[MrSpates]

This link shows where someone built a coil that recharges its own battery, Thought it might be of interest to some of you.

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/ElectromagneticDev/davidmason/timepump.htm

[Localjoe]

@mrspates

Thanks but the jnl labs page goes a little more in depth.

[Freezer]

I made one of those joule thiefs, and it works pretty good. So I guess these leds run off ac just as well.  I used a 1 watt luxeon and it seems like full brightness off a 1 D cell so ill test it with the earth batteries and see.

D cell  battery -

Without thief
1.34vdc
2.4vac
149mA

With Thief
1.11vdc
43-35vac
131mA

[Bruce_TPU]

@Bruce
Cool
I think before going in the ground, you should try a high speed make and break im next to positive you ac readings will increase proportionally with speed
                                                                                                               Joe

@Joe
I sure hope that you are right about that.  And I will for sure test it, as soon as I figure this relay out.  I also have analog meters coming for DC ma's and for DC volts.  I still need to order an AC analog.  I do not trust these digitals all that much.

@ Joe:

Just so you understand....based on that guy's response to me on youtube, we were talking of not exactly putting juice into the coils but, and it may only work with the separate electrodes, by having a regular rechargeable battery in the circuit he claimed that this battery charged more than it was drained by the load. (lights)  The idea (theory) is that whatever the load takes from the rechargeable battery, the earth (from the electrodes) puts back in, and then some.  I think this is what we are talking about investigating. I didn't know if you were clear on that.  I am still hunting around here for a rechargeable battery large enough to light up a small incandescent type bulb so I can try it with both the electrode style, and coil style earth battery in this arrangement.  It would be fantastic if it works.

PS  I just had a thought about your other post Joe.  Do we need a high dielectric material between the primary and the secondary?  I was just going to use cotton but, now that I think about what you said with the wood, if the voltage gets high enough, it could easily pass back to the primary through the cotton could it not?  Maybe we need like heat shrink tubing or some other stronger insulator here?  If somehow we get into the 10,000 volts or so range, that spark could jump a long way and the primary is just sitting there very close-by.  What do you think?


@ Bruce:

Nice secondary.  Did you wind two separate/different wire types so you can see which performs better?  I think most of the Tesla type coils use enamel coated wire for secondaries.  It looks good.  I like Joe's idea that the faster you pulse it, the higher the voltage will be.  Also, if we can hit the "resonance" freq. somehow (it will be different I am sure for all of us due to the variance in materials used and windings and size) I bet we would see a huge jump in the output.  I can't wait to get to that step.

Bill

@ Bill
Yes, I used to different types of wire to see any difference.  The magnetic wire is the winner (for this application.    )

I hope that Joe's theory hold true, as well.  Resonance can be worked on, once we have a proof of concept of this whole thing.

It has rained and thundered here all day.  Not much experimenting outdoors.  That battery test with load, connected to the earth battery electrodes is extremely important.  That and getting a relay to work on my coil are this weeks objectives.

P.S.  Winding the secondary reduces your ma's seen on your primary.

Cheers,

Bruce