Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[one]

@ one:

There have been  several photos of NS earth batteries posted here...I could not even begin to tell you what pages to look at, those batteries were much longer than they were wide.  To me they kind of looked to be about the size of a 2" OD pvc pipe and about 18" long.  Stubblefield had many of these batteries in wooden boxes in one of the pictures.

I am still a fan of the rotary make/break (self-contained) device controlled by a pot as Joe has described.  Easier, cheaper, and much more flexibility in speed control.

Bill

Thanks Bill

I  spent  an hour or 2 a day for a couple  weeks   reading the  start of this  thread .......   then I  saw  how many  pages it has..... it would take me  monthis   at  the rate I was going .   

I have also  been   trying to  keep  up  with the posts here for a month or 2 .......so I have seen some of the   pictures 

I did notice that  long and skinny  seemed to be the trend .... just wondering  if  I missed a reason for this.
Personally my gut feeling is that  short and wide with a good sized  core would work best .


gary   

[epiphany]

@Gary,
The old point set distributor was in wide use before the inductive electronic ignition came about. The point sets have an adjustable base. There's a little fiber (or something) rubbing block that follows the distributor central gear. The gear has as many lobes on it as cylinders of course. Those lobes would force the points apart. When the points were forced apart, the secondary wnding of the coil was interrupted, and the coil's magnetic field would collapse into the primary winding, which 'saw' ground through the spark plug gap via the distributor cap. The points also have a spring on them to return them to their normal position. There was a condenser involved to reduce arcing of the points.

Sorry for the long explanation. I was seeing this being driven by a battery powered drill or something. That, and maybe they could handle a little more current. It might make for a quick proof of concept without too much overhead.

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@Gary,
The old point set distributor was in wide use before the inductive electronic ignition came about. The point sets have an adjustable base. There's a little fiber (or something) rubbing block that follows the distributor central gear. The gear has as many lobes on it as cylinders of course. Those lobes would force the points apart. When the points were forced apart, the secondary wnding of the coil was interrupted, and the coil's magnetic field would collapse into the primary winding, which 'saw' ground through the spark plug gap via the distributor cap. The points also have a spring on them to return them to their normal position. There was a condenser involved to reduce arcing of the points.

Sorry for the long explanation. I was seeing this being driven by a battery powered drill or something. That, and maybe they could handle a little more current. It might make for a quick proof of concept without too much overhead.

I  guess I assumed that  you  were talking about   about  using the whole  distributor
Using   just the cam and points is a better idea

gary

[jeanna]

I did notice that  long and skinny  seemed to be the trend .... just wondering  if  I missed a reason for this.
Personally my gut feeling is that  short and wide with a good sized  core would work best .

gary   

Hi Gary,
I think if truth were told that the reason for the 2 layer coils is that we ran out of wire!

I tried to make a couple that were fatter and I just kept coming up with 3 1/2 layers when I ran out again.

This design is very complex and I think we may be a while sorting out what we should do to make it work better. Or, how to go about what we plan to do......

Give it a go and get the longest wire you can find.
My next one will use litz wire cuz I have about had it with hand wrapping all the copper.

Please let us know what you get no matter what you get. It all informs and helps.

jeanna

[epiphany]

Bob Lochte replied to my email. He wasn't aware of the mechanism (~process) of the earth cell battery tertiary coil excitation method, and suggested reading the patent. He is of the opinion that the earth cell battery only produces low voltage. Bob, if you're reading this, I hope that this is a fair summary. 

I still feel like it's going to take a hot spot placement to get the results NS was able to produce.
I saw a reference to 'Hartmann knot' somewhere, and wonder (there's that word again) if these are related, or just more woo-woo:

Hartmann Grids were discovered in 1950 by a German medical doctor, Ernst Hartmann. The lines form a grid around the earth, running north to south and east to west, and extend to a height of 60 to 600 feet. The north-south lines appear approximately every 6' 6", and the east-west lines appear approximately every 8' 2". According to Dr. Hartmann, the worst place that a person can sleep or work is over a Hartmann knot, where two Hartmann lines cross, as harmful radiation is intensified at this juncture.

from: http://www.explorepub.com/articles/geopathiczones1.html