Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[jeanna]

Gary,

I think your voltage is more like mine. It is because you used iron wire that is all iron. Copper and iron are pretty close on the galvanic scale. (I think there is a word for that scale???)

The folks who are getting 0.7v are using zinc galvanized iron for wire.

The jury is still out on that one.

It is great to have another builder here, welcome welcome.

jeanna

from your next post:
I agree it only makes sense to make 60Hz only with enough power. I was working on the tuning angle since that was a new bit of learning for me.

[one]

@ Gary:

What about super caps?  I have some and I can get very small ones that are 5 farad.  I posted this in another topic and was told that a fared is a huge amount and I must be mistaken.  I am not.  I have already been using a .22 farad cap with my first earth battery experiments.  It works better than a battery and will store enough juice to light my one led for over two hours after being disconnected from the cell.  I have not seen any large size super caps (physical size) so I was thinking of using several 5 farad caps wired in either series or parallel.  That should be a lot of power storage for me I think.  what are your thoughts?

@ All:

I rescued an old mac monitor from my community dumpster this weekend and salvaged a lot of components from it.  Besides the flyback transformer and a bunch of caps and resistors, I found a large amount of magnet wire near the end of the picture tube.  Now here at Radio Shack (my only local electronics seller) they only sell magnet wire in spools of 25 feet.  Not enough to do any of the things I want to do.  I got about 200 feet from the monitor.  I have read that you can't splice magnet wire when wrapping a coil.  I don't understand why not as I think it could be soldered, which would melt away the enamel insulation, but that could be reapplied could it not?  I will still probably have to order a large spool on-line.  It looks like we are going to have plenty of uses for it.

Bill

A  super  cap would  be great for  storing  energy on a small scale .........and  probably be alot better  for  proving  OU .

As long as it has a battery  connected   some people will think that it is  running off the battery .

How much are they asking for those 5 F supercaps?




I have never seen anyone    try to splice  a  piece  of magnet  wire in and wrap it into a coil .................but you can always  run  both ends  outside the coil   to connect  them .   

If anyone  asks  what the  extra wires are for .........you can  tell them  it is a center tap just in case you need one later   



gary

[one]

Gary,

I think your voltage is more like mine. It is because you used iron wire that is all iron. Copper and iron are pretty close on the galvanic scale. (I think there is a word for that scale???)

The folks who are getting 0.7v are using zinc galvanized iron for wire.

The jury is still out on that one.

It is great to have another builder here, welcome welcome.

jeanna

from your next post:
I agree it only makes sense to make 60Hz only with enough power. I was working on the tuning angle since that was a new bit of learning for me.

Jeanna

So I  guess that my  numbers  come pretty close to  others  here??

I have noticed that  if I  connected  and let it run a while  the  current  drops  and the  voltage  rises

it started at 3.55  mA  after  a couple hours   it was down to  2.45 mA

Then I   changed the  meter  to voltage .  it started  at  .53  V it  has been  about a half hour , it is at .63 V now

Also the water is  turning orange .   is this stuff normal ??




The  resonance  part is  new to me too ...........but that is a direction I want to explore
radiant energy    resonance  and flyback    are  the areas  I   am interested in .




gary

[Pirate88179]

@ One:

Just for the record, I am getting .9 vdc and 30 mA from my two layer NS coil. (Primary windings only)  I used bare iron wire (per the patent) and bare copper wire (per the patent).  The only thing in my set-up that is zinc coated is the iron core.  I used this only because with my magnet tests in the store, this was the only thing that had a huge amount of iron in it.  I used cotton cloth to insulate the core from the windings, and cotton string to separate the iron from the copper.  I believe it is important to use cotton as said in the patent.  Why?  At this point I don't know but those that have used cotton are all getting similar numbers and those using plastic or fiberglass are getting much less.  Someone on here, sorry I can't recall who, was getting like 80 mA and they also used cotton.  I also covered the outside of my second layer in cotton as well.

I'll check on the 5F supercaps cost.  I have not bought any yet but someplace I have bookmarked a supplier of them.  Good idea on the splicing outside the winding...thanks.

I think the color you are seeing might be rust. (oxidation)  My cotton has turned a bit brown from this as well.  I think it might be possible to use insulated iron wire but have not tested that yet.

@ Jeanna:

Yes, I have all kinds of regular caps from salvage efforts.  I have a large tupperware container that I keep all of them in.  there were many in that monitor, and a little while ago, I salvaged an old color tv and got a bunch of components from that as well.  With the price radio shack charges for this stuff, it was like finding free money in the dumpster!  My friend also saved me a capacitor that is the size of a beer can.  This was from his old heat and air unit.  I have no idea what the rating on it is but he said it was enough to kill a person (hopefully not me) so that sounded pretty big to me.

Bill

[Localjoe]

@Gary Great work Bud !

   Bill is right i stressed the cotton / fabric insul for a reason. It speifically says it in the patent and has to be able to be saturated in water yet insulate the metal, possibly let the ions pass from wire to wire not sure but cloth insulation is a deff.. mines somewheres around a volt .8 sometimes 1.2sometimes and upwards of 20 ma.  We all just ran out of wire early after finding the proper design.. must have been excitement. but our goal for the primary is not high voltage just a good current punch and as weve seen from others results the voltage will peak aroudn 1 v or so and the current will still go  up wtih more surface area.    So theres a few tips to help you get yours producing well.
                                                                                                                                          again great work,
                                                                                                                                                                   Joe