Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[one]

@ Chad:

I follow your description except for how many turns you have on your secondary?  I think that is what is holding a lot of us up at this point because you need a bunch of magnet wire for the secondary....and all one piece.  I have read 1,000 turns and also 3,000 turns, etc.)  I believe Joe did kind of what you did with a manual make/break just to see if any ac and he also was reading some.  Once we can make/break this at reasonable frequencies, I believe we will see hundreds of vac if not in the thousands.  I am not there yet, but almost ready to begin.


Bill

It seems to me that   what works   will work on  other scales

Why not   keep  things small  for a while .

If you can induce  a few volts  in a seconday   around a small coil .......  THEN it is time to start scaling  it up .

make  a mistake  on a big  coil .....it could be  a big mistake .   $   $   $

It is kind of hard to make a big mistake on a small coil



gary

[one]

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[jeanna]

Chad,
I like your method of laying the cloth down and squeezing the wire into place between the windings.
I think you have a very different coil here. The rest of ours are wound similarly and we have a diversity of results. Adding this to the mix is probably good for later. Is there no way you can make one with the windings wound like ours?
We have , I think, decided to wind down then up the coil which is unusual enough. There is reason to believe this should be checked out before we go and wind the primary in a parallel way.
Please try to wind one like the rest so there is some way to compare/contrast your results.
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With that said, I went out to repeat this morning's weirdness. And unfortunately, I did.

I'm gonna try to make it really clear.

First everything except the NS coil has been in the ground for a couple of months or more.

There is a copper stick - a wire that is 1/4 inch thick.
A copper pipe pounded about 6 inches in the ground. And right next to that pipe is
A bunch of carbon rods tied and soldered together with a copper wire soldered to them as a lead.

The copper stick is about 30 inches away from the copper pipe/carbon rods.
In between I stuck my primary NS coil down to where the coil part begins. (It is moist)

the voltage readings across the controls are:

5 mvdc - cu stick to cu pipe  
94mvdc- cu stick to C rods

the voltage readings across the 10's are:

235mvdc - 25uA -> 14uA  -  Cu10 - Fe10 (leads of NS coil)
355mvdc -  9uA -                 Cu10 - to cu stick
435mvdc -  15uA -               Cu10 - to Carbon rods

Added a supercap between the Cu5,Fe6 and continued to measure across the 10's
the voltage readings across the 10's are:

631mvdc - 13uA                  Cu10 - to Carbon rods

Remove cap and reading drops to
187 mvdc 10cu - 10Fe
( perhaps this is because the sun is setting and the temp is dropping or the coil is drying.)

Then the really weird part. The supercap only contains 6 mv

As I was writing this I thought I must have made a mistake so, I just repeated it. The readings are slightly different but basically about the same. With the boost from the carbon rods the voltage across the 10cu and the C rods was 697vdc and the super cap only reads 14 mv.

If I do the same boosting thing but connect across the Fe10 to the C rods the voltage is 580vdc. 100mv less than from the cu10.

So, all the weird stuff aside for later or for enquiring minds and thoughts, the voltage on my coil outside today was
189mvdc where inside it was
268mvdc.

jeanna

[jeanna]

Gary

I think  if  each  builder  kept  a file of  the basics that he or she was  working with .... like   wire size    readinngs  taken   and  what  you are doing  different   

I can easily do that. I only need to go into my own past posts to get all of it.
I have kept records in a text file as well. It is easy enough. I can post it but it will take up a lot of room, maybe I could post the dates of the results posts.

In fact I think this is a good idea for all of us. I hear folks refer to posts I think I missed.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ One:

But how many windings did you have on your secondary?  I am not talking about building a big one just yet, but I believe the patent calls for what is, to me anyway, a large number of windings on the secondary.  That is why I asked how many you have.  I have some magnet wire here salvaged from a monitor which is about 200 feet or so and I can use that.  I don't/won't know how many windings that will be until I do it.  As you said, whatever that turns out to be will at least be something to start with.

@ Jeanna:

I don't understand why you are not getting better results as in higher volts and mA's.  Especially when you tied into your other electrodes as well.  This is curious.  It should be about 1 volt and, depending on the size, 20-80 mA's.  Did you wet the soil when placing it into the ground?  Or was your coil still "wet" from a good soaking?  I think I read that, at first, NS would water his earth battery garden to get it started.  Maybe the soil there is too dry?  I also do not understand the business with the caps.  This makes no sense to me but, what do I know.  Maybe someone else can explain this to us.  I never did check my super cap for amps only volts.  I probably should have.  We will get this figured out.

Bill