Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[resonanceman]

  @ Bill

Thanks for that post Bill. That proves my theory that you can't get any usable power from a coil just by burying it in the ground no matter how its wound, it has to have something more. After all a coil is really nothing more than a transformer and that has to be powered by something. .

Mr Spates

Please  explain  how   Bills post is proof of anything.

I see in  Bills post  evidence that Stubblefield  used uranium ore in some of his coils  and paid a vary high  price fir it .

I see no  PROOF in the post that  he  actually  used  uranium ore .     Just  evidence  that he did,..

I see  no  way that even  if it was proven  that he did use uranium ore how that would  prove that no coil  anywhere could pick  up energy from the earth .


I am always  amazed  that any shred of evidence   that  something can't be done is  so often taken as sweeping  proof ..............but  even  fairly strong proof that it can  be  done  is picked  to pieces  ........then  disregarded .

I was   planning on  posting  some details of   what I have been  testing .
Because  of your post  and many others  on this site  with  similar  attitude I have decided to wait  a while.




gary

[Pirate88179]

@ MrSpates:

Well, notice I said that NS used the ore to INCREASE the output, not to create it.  Heck, I am getting output from my little coils with them just sitting in my living room in a dry condition.  Earlier, I posted the numbers both wet and dry and that is a real usable output with no input.  So, respectfully, I disagree with your conclusion that the coils will not have any usable  output without an input.  These are small coils I am playing with and I am confident that once I build larger ones, the power output will go up accordingly.  Others on here with larger devices have indeed had much higher power output than I am getting, and that makes sense to me.

As for the NS history I shared (from Hans's research) being accurate, well, I can't really say because I was not there.  I have since read several accounts that speak of the same things so I tend to believe it is, or was, true.  We are dealing with history here and the information is only as good as its sources.  One account I read was written by NS's son, Bernard, he is the little boy in the photos with NS, he survived but recalled the deaths of his siblings.  He died not too long ago, (1980's) and was there at the time of the experiments so I consider him a decent source for the info.  I guess everyone will have to make up their own mind.

Bill

[resonanceman]

@ Gary:

If I missed this than I am sorry.  Did you look at the primary with an O scope?  Did that show ac?  I have measured ac all along on my electrodes in the garden and we had some discussion about that.  I have read, in multiple places, that meters will show ac when none is there.  To prove this to myself, I used an analog and digital meter to test....both showed ac.  Then, at my father's suggestion, I checked an AA battery and it too show ac at the same amount/ratio as the earth cells.  I have not checked the coils for ac as I thought we had gathered/assumed that it was not really there.  Someone else a while ago, many many pages back, check with his scope and no real ac.

So, if you have scoped it and it is really there, I will check my new coils also.  As you may have guessed, I have no access to a scope at this time.

Bill

I don't have a clue about  the AC

I  understand   that  meters  can sometimes have   incorrect readings ..

My meter  seems to  favor .007  volts AC   I see that reading alot  when  checking for AC .

The  AC I was talking about  was MUCH higher.
WHat was more interesting   than  just getting AC was that it was sensative  to  how close I was to the coil .

I didn't  write  most of the mumbers down .........but I was getting  a wide range of voltages .
The  variable  seem to be me.  ........the  closer  I got to the coil  , the higher  the  AC voltage went .
IF i remember right  if I held my hands   around  the coil  it read   around .2 V AC
Several  times  I watched  the meter  as I backed away . 
My movements   were still  affecting   the voltage  when I was 10 feet away . ....that was as far as I could get  and still read the meter.


I was going try a few other measurements .....  when  I bumped my coil and it fell  a few inches .  That  ended the  AC readings  ........and  created  a problem  in my coil .........now  between  5 and 6 I get  a reading of around 10 K ohms

The  AC  readings lasted  around a day and a half .

Yesterday  I  had just changed some connections   .    I was getting  AC for  a couple minutes ..........then it stopped .
Yesterday  the AC  was  only .014 V



gary

[jeanna]

About the AC voltage:
I find AC voltage that is equivalent to the DC voltage when I measure between the 10's or 5,6. My meter has a low resolution on AC so I cannot get a reading as accurate as the dc or uAmps, but when the dc voltage is over .5vdc, I can see the same  thing on the ac.

Now, in my latest 2 coils I got a higher ac than dc reading a couple of times. (That is just to pique everyone's interest) I don't know if it will repeat. I will make a full report, later and it will be there.

I do want to say this interesting thing, I have noticed.

I have been checking for shorts at the end of every winding with either metal in either direction.
                     (I am using this excellent methid of separating each layer of metal from the next                 
                     with a layer of cloth. It makes a secure separation and the galvanic
                     electricity production seems undisturbed. and for me it is faster. Thank you (is it
                     Gary's idea?)).
I have found that I can get an accurate reading of the voltage across the coil by checking the terminals even when the rest of the wire is still in the package on the floor!! So, it is possible to know all along how this coil is and potentially when to stop.

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Remember the bit of secondary I wound around the spike? and how I got a voltage by measuring across the cu5 wire and one end of the secondary when I shorted the other end end of the secondary to the iron core piece 1? I unwound that wire from the spike and rewound it and therefore used the same amount of wire over a bit of the primary winding. then I shorted it the same way again. Again I got voltage from doing this. I am repeating it here and I will again in a full report later, because this may be coming from inductance caused IN the core piece 1 by the galvanic reaction. (but in itself it may not be galvanic.)

Gary,
I will try again to get those ac readings. I didn't see any yesterday. - low res meter.

jeanna

[resonanceman]

About the AC voltage:
I find AC voltage that is equivalent to the DC voltage when I measure between the 10's or 5,6. My meter has a low resolution on AC so I cannot get a reading as accurate as the dc or uAmps, but when the dc voltage is over .5vdc, I can see the same  thing on the ac.

Now, in my latest 2 coils I got a higher ac than dc reading a couple of times. (That is just to pique everyone's interest) I don't know if it will repeat. I will make a full report, later and it will be there.

I do want to say this interesting thing, I have noticed.

I have been checking for shorts at the end of every winding with either metal in either direction.
                     (I am using this excellent methid of separating each layer of metal from the next                 
                     with a layer of cloth. It makes a secure separation and the galvanic
                     electricity production seems undisturbed. and for me it is faster. Thank you (is it
                     Gary's idea?)).
I have found that I can get an accurate reading of the voltage across the coil by checking the terminals even when the rest of the wire is still in the package on the floor!! So, it is possible to know all along how this coil is and potentially when to stop.

----------
Remember the bit of secondary I wound around the spike? and how I got a voltage by measuring across the cu5 wire and one end of the secondary when I shorted the other end end of the secondary to the iron core piece 1? I unwound that wire from the spike and rewound it and therefore used the same amount of wire over a bit of the primary winding. then I shorted it the same way again. Again I got voltage from doing this. I am repeating it here and I will again in a full report later, because this may be coming from inductance caused IN the core piece 1 by the galvanic reaction. (but in itself it may not be galvanic.)

Gary,
I will try again to get those ac readings. I didn't see any yesterday. - low res meter.

jeanna

Jeanna

If  you are talking about  winding  a layer  with one wire leaving  gaps  then  covering  it with cotton  then winding  the second layer  in the gaps ........it is   a good idea ..............but it is not my idea




It  is interesting  that you  have found that  you can take measurements   as  the coil  is wound .    That  might come in  very handy  some day tuning  coils ........ assuming   we find  something to tune them to.




I  wouldn't  expect much  AC from  a small coil ............but  it would be interesting  if  adding a secondary  created more  AC  in the   original  windings .




gary