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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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jeanna

Quote from: Localjoe on April 16, 2008, 01:48:52 PM
it might be advantageous to dump a bottle of vinegar in the ground around it once.

So again i is pine pitch or sap acidic? i cant find info on it , if anyone can answer this that would great
                                                                                                                  Thanks to all
                                                                                                                                  Joe

Yes, pine is acidic. It's forest 'litter' is anyway.

Caution folks,
vinegar is a fabulous herbicide. It kills on contact and leaves no residue.
The implications of that are that it could kill lots of plants in an immediate dumping of vinegar around a coil, and it won't last long enough to continue to add to the charge.

The way to test the soil (of the pine trees for) pH is to scoop up the dirt add distilled water then after 30 minutes minimum stick a pH stick into it to read the pH. Oaks are acidic too. the acid is called tannic acid.

jeanna

resonanceman

Quote from: jeanna on April 16, 2008, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: Localjoe on April 16, 2008, 01:48:52 PM
it might be advantageous to dump a bottle of vinegar in the ground around it once.

So again i is pine pitch or sap acidic? i cant find info on it , if anyone can answer this that would great
                                                                                                                  Thanks to all
                                                                                                                                  Joe

Yes, pine is acidic. It's forest 'litter' is anyway.

Caution folks,
vinegar is a fabulous herbicide. It kills on contact and leaves no residue.
The implications of that are that it could kill lots of plants in an immediate dumping of vinegar around a coil, and it won't last long enough to continue to add to the charge.

The way to test the soil (of the pine trees for) pH is to scoop up the dirt add distilled water then after 30 minutes minimum stick a pH stick into it to read the pH. Oaks are acidic too. the acid is called tannic acid.

jeanna

I   didn't know that  vinegar  will kill plants .....I guess it makes sense ......

I  agree that oaks   make the  soil  acidic .........I remember  reading that   Stubblefield favored     placing coils under  old  oak trees ..

I am not a gardener ...........but I   remember that  tomatoes  like  acid  soil ......my father  used to  buy  something at the  garden  center  to make the soil more acid .   



gary 


Edit    .......   after thinking about it a while ......I think  my father    used potash  to raise the acid  level  in the soil .....

if  you   don't  wanto to go  buy  some at a garden center ....... wood ashes  from a fireplace  should work 

jeanna

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....... wood ashes  from a fireplace  should work 

Yes, vinegar is a herbicide. I have used it. It leaves no residue. (brilliant. A friend shared this with me and I tried it and it is true.) It takes a lot but vinegar is cheap.

Wood ashes are Basic, not acidic. They may work. (I am planning to try a basic land in my mountain land this summer.) but not because they are acidic. They are the opposite. KOH is drawn from wood ashes to be used for soap making. throw some wood ashes into a paper bag add water to make a slurry, then catch the liquid that drips out. It is a solution of KOH and water. (very basic--alkaline battery. ;) ) - the foxfire books tell more details on how to make soap.

Stay tuned for more recipes from jeanna's kitchen lab.  ;D ;D

jeanna

jeanna

I got this idea from some recent posts. Last fall, we all noticed a difference in voltage between probes of the same metal but separated from each other in the earth.

The idea is that we all have different soils with different pH and chemical content. I am thinking that we could do a control test every time we check any other probes by marking the voltage between 2 probes of cu or maybe whatever bolt material we are using. This will give us a control for comparison around the earth (different ones of us) and a control for our own soil as it relates to the core piece 1 which is in the ground.

I have some probes still in the ground from before and today cu to cu gives me 0.016vdc.

I will look back to see what I got last fall.

what do you think about this as a way to give us a reference for comparison?

jeanna

Chad

soil is apparently made acidic by decomposing organic matter giving off hydrogen gas, so maybe we can make a concoction made from fast decaying plant material we could blend and line the hole were we are going to place our earth cell in, this would give us a steady acidic base to act as an electrolyte.

We just need to find wich plant materials would be suitable, it would be great if we could just dump all our old patatoe pealings and cabbage leafs in there....bit of organic recycling :)

i could do with buying some litmus papers asap.

Chad.