Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[storre]

For those looking for NC reed switches I found this. I have some coming from meder but got these to try also.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIPPON-ALEPH-HYR-1003-REED-SWITCH-N-Close-15-35-AT_W0QQitemZ180234036111QQihZ008QQcategoryZ58169QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

[Thnder]

I have not posted to date as I preferred to finish reading the entire thread prior to doing so. Very interesting thus far.

I do not have a NS cell yet but I do have 12 CU pipes (.5 inch x 4 inches) and Zink nails (around 4inches long) wired in series and in parallel(2 rows of 6). Eventually I will have 3rd row soon. I currently get between 3 to 3.2 volts from it. I will tweak this as I am certain something is amiss as the initial readings were  around 4.25 prior to covering them up with dirt.

My DMM will not register amps from it but will from a battery, so my method of measuring is not flawed I dont think and the DMM does function. I did hook a resister (982 ohm) to it and measured the voltage(2.77, prior voltage before I had a full 12 pipes) and calculated the Amps to be 2.8 ma.

Under load of my led circuit (green LED 3.2 or 3.4 volt 21 ma) It drops the cells output from 3 volts to 2.71-2.62 volts. The LED is not full brightness as it would be under battery power.
Individual pipe readings nets me between .96 and .5  volts in or out of the ground. Again the DMM will not measure Amps. I did not attempt a manual calculation on the individual pipes. I suspect my meter incapable of measuring amps from this source.
At some point I will redo the .5 volt ones and attempt a higher voltage. I see no reason the pipes should not be of uniform output with uniform material. Each pipe is filled with dirt and the nail driven in the center and all are buried so the lawn can be mowed and my stuff isnt tore up.
The 6 in series go nail to pipe the 2 in parallel are connected by the end nails and the end pipes, CU + and Zinc Nail -. They are in a grid about 3 inches by 10 inches and are not precisely spaced apart. Too many rocks in the ground. I may or may not dig a section at some point and fix them accordingly.
These are buried outside my window and I run wires into the house and into my breadboard for circuit testing.
I obtained from: http://www.alliedelec.com/Catalog/Indices/Products.asp?sid=48336600C23E17F&No=0&N=4294821930+4294820496
a couple 1.5 Farad 5.5 volt capacitors and a couple 2.3 volt 22 Farad capacitors (yes that is Farad) and emulated the circuit for a shakelight with one 22 farad cap. I tested it by charging it with a battery. The circuit does work, however the Earth battery I crafted will not charge it. Let me rephrase that, It does charge it however it is so slow it would take weeks to charge it to something useful and I can not tell how much it would charge up to. When I say charge I do mean hooking + meter to + Capacitor lead and ?Meter to ? Capacitor lead and measuring the Voltage in the cap.  I will experiment again as I do not have the details fresh in my head as to why I quit that line of experimenting.

Gota run so ttyl.

[resonanceman]

I do not have a NS cell yet but I do have 12 CU pipes (.5 inch x 4 inches) and Zink nails (around 4inches long) wired in series and in parallel(2 rows of 6). Eventually I will have 3rd row soon. I currently get between 3 to 3.2 volts from it. I will tweak this as I am certain something is amiss as the initial readings were  around 4.25 prior to covering them up with dirt.

Welcome  Thnder


If I remember right    with   the kind of cells  you made   I believe that    it said to keep the tops of the cells  above  ground .

I  think  your lower  voltage and  current  are a result of    leakage  between    the zinc  nails and " other  "   copper  pieces   

If   you  want  to  cover   your cells  I would suggest    taping  a  piece of plastic  over the top .....   

or   better  yet .......  with the   nail and  dirt  still  in the pipe .....  stick a piece if  sting  into  the  dirt .( one piece of sting in each end )

Then   securely   tape  up the  ends of the copper pipe   leaving the end of the  strings and   wires  out 

The  cell  is   actually  only  inside  the  copper pipe .....  the   outside of the copper pipe  does not  add to the  cell ....... except   if it  is picking  up  other  earth fields, so  I would  leave  much of it exposed .

Enough water  should  wick in through the  string to keep  the  battery  working ..........but the  strings should not    be a good enough  conductor   to let   the cells  short out .


I would  test  this idea out  on  a couple of  the cells that are closest  together ........  that is where  the greatest losses should  be .

gary

[Pardon]

I made an earth battery cell  out of 10 12" galvanized spikes and THHN/THWN 12 AWG Solid Copper Wire wrapped around it. Each cell gets @ .90VDC but when I try to connect them in series to increase the voltage I  get the same voltage as if I ran them parallel. Anybody else experience anything like this?
Any suggestions?

I had the same thing happen to me. i think you need to remove all your cells and add to the outside an insulator like a plastic bag- glass jar- paint the outside of the cell, something so your cells don't short to the next cell. then plant them again and you can wire them in series for more voltage.

I never figured out the work around for Parallel and more amp's good luck there. but then maybe i didn't test all that i could have tested.

hope this helps you out

[Thnder]

Thanks Gary I appreciate the input.

I did read about the covering of the exterior of the pipe however I have not attempted to do so. At this point I am not sure I will. I think, as you apparently do, that it would in effect smother them. I may perhaps explore the tape and string, but not until I have what I got planned put in place and I know that my connections and Nails are solid.
As to the buried pipes voltage and leakage, it is possible I suppose but I have to disagree and here is why:
What I had not mentioned is the process I took to my current point I will detail that to the best of my recollection. I have been playing with these since winter. I will be up front before I proceed; I have no more understanding of the forces at work here than anyone else and maybe less than some. What I have gathered, as many here, is that galvanic reaction is NOT the underlying reaction between the metals and the power does not seem to be seepage from my house as far as I can tell. Thus I can have a Zink nail outside the confines of the pipe and say in a fir tree 30' away from my house and still get similar voltage (between .7 and .9) connected to a cu pipe and DMM, next to the tree or outside my window, the same nail can be in the ground the same distance, Six feet or in the top of the pipe it matters not. So in my mind the cell is not limited to the inside of the pipe you can get activity in other ways. This is why I admit the possibility of leakage.
I have hooked a few pipes to one nail and each to their own nail but I have only done them in series with the nail in their centers. Everything else prior was connected with a preceding diode. I used the diodes to keep things separate on the breadboard. I did the nails in the center mainly to neaten things up and to cut down on wire usage. A pleasant side affect was the ability to hook in series. I do not know why the nail inside the pipe allows for series connection and only parallel when it is outside of the pipe. Perhaps it is because the pipe surrounds the majority of the nail completely and perhaps not.  Anyways it was easier to manage and kept a buttload of wires from having to come in my window. I have to many wires coming into my window now. Some to my roof, I have voltage there, a 42? coax cable suspended from a tree ( some voltage there) 500? of magnet wire from my house straight out into the woods elevated a good 15? (more voltage). The coax and magnet wire are hooked to air caps and germanium diodes. Nothing special to note there and is unrelated to earth bats.  Best so far are my 2x6 pipes and nails. My reasoning for them was dropping a neodium magnet through a 1? copper pipe and it dropping real slow. This seemed far easier then winding a coil to me and I lack the proper wires anyways. I figured it to be a good learning tool. Eventually I will make a real NS coil but funds are tight and I had the pipe and nails.

Back to my process. I first started with 1 pipe and 1 iron rod. Got something and got excited. So I came across this forum and proceeded with zink nails as I have them in abundance 4? long and about 1/4? wide  in the middle. These determined my pipe length.
My first real experiment involved Six 4? pipes and nails each separated by six feet approximate and not exact, a visual gauge. The sixth pipe and nail was actually a 12" bolt and the pipe was 1" X 12 ". It was my one test on size and I deemed size irrelevant not being able to test amps. This first batch is 2 in parallel x 3 in series. I toyed with singular pipes and nails, nothing to note aside from an inability to hook in series unless the nail was in their centers. They are comparable to my above 2x6 set when it was 2x3. I then determined distance in this range be it 6? or 1 to 2 inches was irrelevant the voltages were comparable and unable to test amps. Now I am 34 and I live with my father and I am sure this relieved him as now I will not be digging up his entire lawn .
I must of course re-plant my first set of six as I wish to have them uniform with my new batch of 12.
Note: I will have an analog amp meter soon from a friend on loan soon. I can then test my 12 incher and my first and second sets of pipes for amps and in my eyes legitimately determine if size and distances matters.
Anyways the first three of the original six I left a bit sticking out of the ground as we still had snow then and I was not worried about lawn mowing. I needed easy access as I had not the wire at the time to bring them inside. Towards the tail end of winter and beginning of spring when the rest of the snow melted I buried them and added the second three. I was also then able to wire them and bring them inside. I had no notable effect in voltage as I recall from the burying. Of course I am terrible with written logs I have none. However I do recall that my voltage was comparable with parts sticking out of the ground and comparable again to being out of the ground and held in hand. These were also separated by more distance.

Once that first six was layed down and toyed with I began my current project. The 2x6. This was done to start with 2 in parallel by 3 in series, I had a few problems with soldering but I was able to get them up and going and buried with no anomalies, meaning the initial voltage was the same once I had them completely covered. I could be wrong of course but I am positive that I have a couple nails out of whack however I have new method for putting the nails in that allows me to observe them in my room prior to burying. The anomaly did not appear until I expanded to 2 in parallel and 6 in series. I had a few busted connections and re-soldering episodes during the expansion?

My third row of  6 is currently sitting in a plastic tub of dirt, in my bedroom and hooked into my breadboard in parallel to my 2x6 outside . Once I have the time I will move it outside of course as I do not wish for it to die a premature death. I seem to recall someone did an inside experiment that died eventually?

In summary I had buried a 2x3 set completely side by side no more than 6 inches and no less than 1 inch between any one pipe. I would think I would have noticed an anomaly of leakage with this set and is why I am leaning towards a whacked nail or connection. I hope that clarifies my leaning towards the anomaly being a whacked nail or a soldering connection.  I am open to being wrong of course and I will find out once I reset them. At least now once I reset them I won?t be banging my head against the wall if it does not work lol thanks.

One side experiment I got some copper tubing 1/4  inch about 4? long, I wound it in a spiral leaving around a half inch gap and elevated the center about an inch, I then placed a pipe 4?  by .5 ? on the center wired that up it reads around 2 volts with my Negative lead from 2x6 group of pipes. I have not a clue why. Originally using its ?own? zink nail planted elsewhere it varies between .7 to 1.05 volts. It sets outside my window on the grass.
My last side experiment was 15 connected aluminum sheets separated by cloth layered over inbetween15 connected copper sheets wood top and bottom and buried produced .25-.37 volts. That was a disappointment. However the aluminum as positive connected to my 2x6 pipes negative was around 1.8 volts likewise the copper sheets was 1.9 volts.
Eventually I may dig it up and see what they do when made into individual cylinders with copper on the outside and aluminum in the center.

Now I realize this is not all Stubblefield coil data however I wanted to bring you all up to speed on what I have done and observed earth related. Maybe it has some relevancy and maybe not I dunno. Perhaps I will move to the speculation thread. Anyways that is where I am at.

What?s cool is all my crap wired into a circuit with my new indoor set of six pipes and nails lights my green led nicely, eventually if left as is, I expect some lightning will ruin my day. I need to figure out something to fix that while being able to play with it inside.