Replication of the Jan P. Cack device?

[Low-Q]

But at least this idea has definitively been ruled out now, which is a shame.

The above statement is premature. This idea hasn't been ruled out yet. Now that the groundwork has been laid, it needs further exploration.

Yes, let's explore further on an idea that will never work. I agree with CLaNZeR - the idea is now ruled out. Let's try something else. A free spinning wheel (without any magnets) are the closest to OU we have on this forum - in fact, magnets has this far only been the major obstacle to free spin. When are we going to see sometning real?

Vidar

[Omnibus]

But at least this idea has definitively been ruled out now, which is a shame.

The above statement is premature. This idea hasn't been ruled out yet. Now that the groundwork has been laid, it needs further exploration.

Yes, let's explore further on an idea that will never work. I agree with CLaNZeR - the idea is now ruled out. Let's try something else. A free spinning wheel (without any magnets) are the closest to OU we have on this forum - in fact, magnets has this far only been the major obstacle to free spin. When are we going to see sometning real?

Vidar

@CLaNZeR never said the idea is now ruled out. He didn't even use the right magnets which he says he wanted from Germany and never turned up as they did not even bother to reply to his email, so he used some rod magnets that are not long enough. Like I said, now that the groundwork is laid, further exploration is necessary.

[Low-Q]

But at least this idea has definitively been ruled out now, which is a shame.

The above statement is premature. This idea hasn't been ruled out yet. Now that the groundwork has been laid, it needs further exploration.

Yes, let's explore further on an idea that will never work. I agree with CLaNZeR - the idea is now ruled out. Let's try something else. A free spinning wheel (without any magnets) are the closest to OU we have on this forum - in fact, magnets has this far only been the major obstacle to free spin. When are we going to see sometning real?

Vidar

@CLaNZeR never said the idea is now ruled out. He didn't even use the right magnets which he says he wanted from Germany and never turned up as they did not even bother to reply to his email, so he used some rod magnets that are not long enough. Like I said, now that the groundwork is laid, further exploration is necessary.

Sorry, my mistake. I DISagree - some spelling errors there - oops.

It's however very fun to construct and build things - at least with some nice tools.

Rod-magnets shouldn't be worse than any other magnet. They are all symatrical in magnetism, and will allways pull as hard as they push. I can't see any reason whatsoever why this magnetmotor should run. But that's me. A FEMM simulation will give hope, but will also lie due to some limitations in the management of magnetic flux lines whithin the given space allowed for the simulation to run. Hello folks, wake up! We are blowing on our own sails here!

Vidar

[Omnibus]

But at least this idea has definitively been ruled out now, which is a shame.

The above statement is premature. This idea hasn't been ruled out yet. Now that the groundwork has been laid, it needs further exploration.

Yes, let's explore further on an idea that will never work. I agree with CLaNZeR - the idea is now ruled out. Let's try something else. A free spinning wheel (without any magnets) are the closest to OU we have on this forum - in fact, magnets has this far only been the major obstacle to free spin. When are we going to see sometning real?

Vidar

@CLaNZeR never said the idea is now ruled out. He didn't even use the right magnets which he says he wanted from Germany and never turned up as they did not even bother to reply to his email, so he used some rod magnets that are not long enough. Like I said, now that the groundwork is laid, further exploration is necessary.

Sorry, my mistake. I DISagree - some spelling errors there - oops.

It's however very fun to construct and build things - at least with some nice tools.

Rod-magnets shouldn't be worse than any other magnet. They are all symatrical in magnetism, and will allways pull as hard as they push. I can't see any reason whatsoever why this magnetmotor should run. But that's me. A FEMM simulation will give hope, but will also lie due to some limitations in the management of magnetic flux lines whithin the given space allowed for the simulation to run. Hello folks, wake up! We are blowing on our own sails here!

Vidar

Like I've said many times, Maxwell3D should be better than FEMM but either one is too idealized of a simulation to reflect the reality of the pretty unequal fields exhibited by magnets having ostensibly the same forms.

[Low-Q]

But at least this idea has definitively been ruled out now, which is a shame.

The above statement is premature. This idea hasn't been ruled out yet. Now that the groundwork has been laid, it needs further exploration.

Yes, let's explore further on an idea that will never work. I agree with CLaNZeR - the idea is now ruled out. Let's try something else. A free spinning wheel (without any magnets) are the closest to OU we have on this forum - in fact, magnets has this far only been the major obstacle to free spin. When are we going to see sometning real?

Vidar

@CLaNZeR never said the idea is now ruled out. He didn't even use the right magnets which he says he wanted from Germany and never turned up as they did not even bother to reply to his email, so he used some rod magnets that are not long enough. Like I said, now that the groundwork is laid, further exploration is necessary.

Sorry, my mistake. I DISagree - some spelling errors there - oops.

It's however very fun to construct and build things - at least with some nice tools.

Rod-magnets shouldn't be worse than any other magnet. They are all symatrical in magnetism, and will allways pull as hard as they push. I can't see any reason whatsoever why this magnetmotor should run. But that's me. A FEMM simulation will give hope, but will also lie due to some limitations in the management of magnetic flux lines whithin the given space allowed for the simulation to run. Hello folks, wake up! We are blowing on our own sails here!

Vidar

Like I've said many times, Maxwell3D should be better than FEMM but either one is too idealized of a simulation to reflect the reality of the pretty unequal fields exhibited by magnets having ostensibly the same forms.

The problem is not the ideal condition. In an ideal condition, a magnet motor should not work. In FEMM there is a none-ideal condition allowing flaws that changes the magnetic rules in a manner that can in fact simulate a working magnetmotor. I am not familiar with Maxwell 3D, so I can just assume that this program is better to predict magnetic problems in real life. @Jdo300 on this forum has Maxwell 3D, maybe he want to comment Maxwell 3D. Do you also have Maxwell 3D, Omnibus? It had been nice if one of you guys could take your time to examine the model presented in the initial post here. It had been interesting to see how Maxwell 3D handle this in comparison to FEMM - I mean if both simulates non-zero output or not.

Vidar