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Overunity Machines Forum



Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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BEP

The more turns you have the more pronounced the effect should be - up to a point.. I would keep the turn spacing at least 2.5 times the diameter of the conductor center to center between turns. The reason for this distance: It is a good approximation and an attempt to keep the turns far enough apart to keep them out of the near-field of each other. Of course, increasing the current enough will override this distance.

Short, sharp pulses are best. Probably longitudinal because the effect is seen first on the meeting of the waves.

I think the target should be
1. to weaken or eliminate the conventional inductive capabilities of the wire.
2. increase the speed of current flow via #1. Forget this for now. I would have to rant to explain.
3. introduce a third energy to stretch the math from squaring to cubing. (Waves are not flat as seen on a scope) Cubing may be too far a stretch but squaring is a minimum and enough.
This energy may be a third frequency that is soley there to create a standing wave (not moving) or a form of localized bias like a PM mag field created by another coil. At this point I don't believe a DC current bias will be of any use as that bias would be the same throughout the length of the mixing conductor or coil.

As for creating a standing wave in such a short piece of wire or coil - that is another argument. Basically if it works - it works. Go for parallel resonance NOT series resonance. I won't discuss this any on this thread. It is a waste of time.

I have a clear understanding of why and how this works and have eluded to it many times. However, others must perform the experiments and come to their own understanding.

Thaelin

909Hi all:
   Just have to jump in here on this. I did play quite a bit with the single wire thing. Went as far as to set up two wires in seperate directions running off the same freq gen. Therein you can find a potential across the two wires as well. I am still contemplating on how best to fit this in to the scheme of things.
   I will get out my flame suit now. The next statement will catch me hell for it but will have to speak it anyhow.

   Over the time I have been going back to the words spoken. What is seen as the collector by most just cant be. I have pondered it over and over. That "one" wire in the center to me would have to be the injected signal wire. The itermediate collectors would be the first set of 90 degree coils. The "output" coil has to be the outside coil. Just my take but still. A circuit potential does exist between the the 90 degree coils if you select the correct position for the two. Depending on which frequency is higher will dictate the direction of travel of the wave front as well.

Ok, let me have it.

thaelin

BEP

@Thaelin

I can agree with most of what you said.

In-fact for some time now I understand the 'collector' is what this group calls the 'TPU'. What is now called the collector - to me - is a continous loop of wire and has no mechanical breaks. It is more of a core than a coil.

I'll take some of the flames for you ;)

@Jdo300

I think cancellation of the magnetic field is needed. Making a bigger one is not very difficult ;D Why do something easy?

The hard part comes when everybody wants to know where to connect on a dognut but we'll stick with a simple coil or straight piece of wire for now.

Localjoe

I had to throw this out there in response to

BEP :)

"The hard part comes when everybody wants to know where to connect on a dognut but we'll stick with a simple coil or straight piece of wire for now"

I could be way off but i just wanted to post this again ..
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..

Bruce_TPU

@ Thaelin
This will help you out, my friend!
Sent to: tao on: June 28, 2006, 04:04:44 AM
Tao,By the way.. When Steven said that you have the secret he said in another mail among other things that you have the collector and control winding relationship the wrong way..Ie excitation into control... allows the collector the perform magnetic conversion.

Hello All,

In this last and final experiment idea that I will be posting for awhile, I combine a second theory, emailed to me by an experimenter who wishes to remain anonymous.  I have received permission from this individual to post this information and my experiment which incorporate both "it" and the opposing identical signals, different batteries, slightly out of phase. (245 Khz) 

This is my favorite experiment and I can envision it with the collector in a closed circle, with two taps, also.

Tao posted to SM long ago, quoting Tesla, about stopping the current.  This kick came out of the wires perpendicularly when this was done.

SM said, "Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret.
I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power generation, but he does
have the secret.  Do you think he knows it? 

The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting  the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation.

The secret to stopping the current given by "nameless": (Edited by me)
I hooked up my bifilar control coil and terminated the other end in a matched resistor (to minimize  REFLECTIONS)    And when I do that, I get one way traveling pulses (let's say clockwise only viewed from the top) �.. and on the collector wire I see  �.DC.

Just build a simple MOSFET and Battery circuit, and pulse your MOSFET rapidly enough to create pulses that go down the line, and terminate your transmission line in it?s CHARACTERISTIC IMPEDANCE, (75ohms or 50 ohms whatever it is).  Your pulses then will not reflect and you will get a ONE WAY induction. This would be a very crude TPU setup, one that is not using RESONANCE just yet.   With RESONANCE we really have to be careful, we?re dealing with lots of current here.

*Me again   ;)
IMHO this needs to be accomplished in BOTH directions, TWO WAY induction!

Experiment Below:

First we send the pulses as fast send off as possible, as elegently said by Eldarion in my thread, today.

I would suggest using VHF triodes for your oscillators.  You need two separate ones to send IDENTICAL signals, slightly out of phase of one another, different batteries powering gens.. 

Next we stop the current from opposing signals, out of phase,  in opposite directions, quenching the reflection of each.  You must use CHARACTERISTIC IMPEDANCE.  You will need to research this exact resistor size, depending on your wire.  (Simply two resistors!) 

I suggest very good speaker wire for the control coils.  And Litz for the collector.  Lastly resonance.  (And two kill switches!)


Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT:
Square Wave or Sine Wave unknown.  My bet is on the sine wave.   ;)  Only experimentation will tell.

Amount of "Phase differential" between identical signals unknown.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.