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Harmonic Oscillating Power Electric generator video

Started by hartiberlin, June 27, 2005, 07:37:55 AM

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Markus

@ Kator01

I?m not really sure but I believe neon tubs like Jim used them have an efficience of about 40% using 60Hz sine wave input.
Which means even if the HOPE is a perfect power supply for neon tubes you would need several dozen watts to light them to full bright. I really doubt you can do that with one or two watts of power input,...i really do!

But prove me wrong if you can.

Otherwise it would be like oouthere? said: Why aren?t we using the HV and the waveform of the HOPE to power neon tubes if it is that efficient ?

Jim also said he had a sceptic (electrical engineer ?) to measure the output and even he with his professional measurement equipment had to confirm the overunity effect.

"...This hope is a very efficient step-up-converter with two phaseshift-Coils...." - Yes, maybe the setup is known among electronic- engineers. But surely not with the nanocrystalline core which plays a key role in the process.

Kator01 why do you insist on a 5 minutes test ?
I don?t suppose there is a another time dependent process which will kill the overunity effect after a short while, although I saw this happen with other "OU" devices.

But it would be possible, I agree.





Kator01

To Rich and Markus,

why these step-up-converters are not used for neons is very simple : enonomic, would you use a 100 ?-Core vor cheap Neons ? Ther is no interest for saving money in energy-mangement.

The technique could be used but too costy.

You can light up more than one neon with 1 Watt, but light-Intensitiy is diffent to if you power it with normal powering-technique. Jim showed on the video on one or two small 8 Watt Neons

Frankly, I dont believe him anymore. He presentet toomany contradictions.When asked specific technical questions he escapes stating that he is not an expert. He states that he is not claim free energy at the same time saying that he has
measurement of 600 : 1 proved by a rms-Meter. He said it is 400 Herz Output, but rms-meters are tune to 50 Hz. Se my on measurement-nightmare.
I believe ih is just a poor guy beeing used as an agemnt by what he calls the NWO-Conspiracy. The USA have a special
desinformatio-dept, and infiltrate every forum. I can not understand why people are so gullible to believe all that HOPE-Stuff. Loo at how he introduced himself and now he cannot give proof by a simple hard-test. I have mre than 25 years of experinece with this desinfo-stuff and today I look at the overall pattern of a person whe it shows up and does calims like this.

Save your energy, folks

I will not argue any more but will post afgain and again in order inhibit damage in teh community.

Kator01

Markus

@ Kator01

Quotewhy these step-up-converters are not used for neons is very simple : enonomic, would you use a 100 ?-Core vor cheap Neons ? Ther is no interest for saving money in energy-mangement.

- Why should the energy-management not be interested in saving money ?
- I agree with you that it doesn?t make sense for a single neon. But it you have a big store with hundreds of neons and you would use one big Hope device to power them it would definitely make sense.


QuoteThe technique could be used but too costy.

- See above.
- To recreate the wave form and frequency the Hope gives out you can also use other circuits (electronics with timer ICs etc.). It wouldn`t be necessary to use this expensive nanocrystalline core. But I think it is the most important part of the device as there might occur some kind of tabbing into ZPE. If YOUR theory is correct, then it should be possible to light up the neons as shown by Jim using a normal core, too.
-That would be really interesting to know.? ?



QuoteYou can light up more than one neon with 1 Watt, but light-Intensitiy is diffent to if you power it with normal powering-technique. Jim showed on the video on one or two small 8 Watt Neons

- What do you mean "light-Intensitiy is diffent" ? Is it brighter with the Hope ?

QuoteFrankly, I dont believe him anymore. He presentet toomany contradictions.When asked specific technical questions he escapes stating that he is not an expert.
- He?s only honest. I mean he even tried to find people who are skilled enough to give us reliable information.


QuoteHe states that he is not claim free energy at the same time saying that he has
measurement of 600 : 1 proved by a rms-Meter.
He said it is 400 Herz Output, but rms-meters are tune to 50 Hz. Se my on measurement-nightmare.
- It depends on definition what is understood by free energy. Wind and solar are free energy, too. The Hope device costs money to build and if it really tabs into ZPE we are just converting it into electricity. No one knows what could happen if we weaken this energy potential.
I agree that 50Hz meters will give you wrong values with 400Hz but as he said even sceptical guys had to admit the "plus" of energy.
You also have to understand that he is risking his reputation if he would claim overunity immediately. It is much better to wait until the first working replications come out. You can be sure that only a few of those who try to replicate it will have success and the failures will be first to claim it doesn?t work although they made a mistake.


QuoteI believe ih is just a poor guy beeing used as an agemnt by what he calls the NWO-Conspiracy. The USA have a special
desinformatio-dept, and infiltrate every forum. I can not understand why people are so gullible to believe all that HOPE-Stuff. Loo at how he introduced himself and now he cannot give proof by a simple hard-test. I have mre than 25 years of experinece with this desinfo-stuff and today I look at the overall pattern of a person whe it shows up and does calims like this.

- I would suggest you try to visit Jim to see what is going on.
- I don?t believe that he invests his time and money for something he knows doesn?t work.

oouthere

Kator01, I appreciate what you are doing as I feel the same.  We have such limited resources inwhich to conduct our experiments that they must be marshalled in the most promising and effecient manner.  A picture of a HOPE powered 50w bulb next to a 50w commercially powered bulb would be enough to convince practically anyone. 

The next project was to be a Kromrey convertor but I can't seem to get a response from John Bedini on what the necessary changes are from the original patent to make it work.  As stated before, limited resources......

BushWacker, please post a picture of of the light bulb test using any incandescent bulb 50 watts or greater and everyone can appreciate the HOPE.

Thanks,

Rich

Kator01

For Markus,

if you insist that the Hope might be a working device, I will help you with the following adress since the AC 320 Core is not available. I once had a meeting with a technician orf magnetec Dr. Martin Ferch, mail: martin.ferch@magnetec.de.
Web : http://www.magnetec.de/magnetec.htm

I hpte that this man is still working there. It was 4 years ago.

They are producing nano-cores.

I agree that you can replicate the Hope-effect ( whatever it might be ) with other Hf-Cores.

So you have a look to this website and maybe you find a simlar core-material

Regards
Kator01