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Very Testable Claim from Kedron

Started by Mr.Entropy, November 09, 2007, 11:55:39 PM

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Mr.Entropy

This enormous powerpoint (6.5M) from a company called Kedron describes a very reproducible experiment, and documents measured results that, if verified, would prove that essentially free energy can be extracted from permanent magnets:

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/Kedron/Kedron_EDEN_Project.ppt

It's the kind of disclosure we've always wanted from Streorn.

Has anyone tried it?

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy


Omnibus

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on November 09, 2007, 11:55:39 PM
This enormous powerpoint (6.5M) from a company called Kedron describes a very reproducible experiment, and documents measured results that, if verified, would prove that essentially free energy can be extracted from permanent magnets:

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/Kedron/Kedron_EDEN_Project.ppt

It's the kind of disclosure we've always wanted from Streorn.

Has anyone tried it?

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy


So, where is the working motor with instructions to have independent third parties reproduce it? Except for quasi-scientific blabber from a physiologist one sees nothing but a completely useless document clogging the net. And what does this have to do with Steorn?

tinu

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on November 09, 2007, 11:55:39 PM
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/Kedron/Kedron_EDEN_Project.ppt

Work is interesting, no doubt about it.

However, so many graphs and data about the horizontally work in close proximity and not a single mention about the work required to horizontally move the magnets at some distance. After all, the magnets move on a closed loop, aren?t they? I?d be glad to be wrong but I suppose the author just neglected to measure the work needed to close the loop.

Opinions?

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on November 09, 2007, 11:55:39 PM
Has anyone tried it?

I haven?t tried it as presented in the file. It requires a lot of patience and I doubt the forces and work can be very accurately measured, due to the large interval the magnitude of forces varies.

What I?ve tried was to force two magnets oscillate on various paths: one on a circle and the other on a line (along the radius). Assuming that the radius of the circle is large enough so the path can be approximate to be linear in the area of interest, the device was relatively simple to test. Imagine one ?a la Bedini?, but with movable stator magnet. But I?ve never seen OU. Now the setup is dismantled. However, if chances for success, I?ll rebuild it.

Tinu

ken_nyus

Also see the patent mentioned in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3327.0.html

They use repulsion, but they show 1 Joule in, getting 4 Joules out.

Omnibus

Quote from: ken_nyus on November 10, 2007, 11:10:19 AM
Also see the patent mentioned in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3327.0.html

They use repulsion, but they show 1 Joule in, getting 4 Joules out.
Again, where's the working model, where are the replications by independent parties? Nowhere to be found, correct? A patent doesn't mean a thing. There are much more interesting perpetuum mobile patents (cf. Frank Fecera's) which have never been shown to protect anything workable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing you. You're just reporting what there is available and that's commendable. What is to be criticized is Uncle Sam's approach who should clarify this problem--either ask the patentees to demonstrate what they claim (which also means that Science as we know it should change if these demonstrations are successful) or else revoke these phony patents.