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Being Decent To Each Other

Started by billmehess, November 11, 2007, 05:32:08 PM

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nightlife

Omnibus, xpenzif's idea is not one that I considered do to the lack of power it would create.

I posted a design I had for a pulse motor but I later found that some have already been built. I then deleted my what I posted hoping that no one was able to fill in the blanks I left untold. I did that because it is obvious that we have people out there keeping these inventions from hitting the market for everyday people to use.

Since then, I have looked to see what others have been working on and found that the only ones we hear about are those that have failed and or can not produce enough power for us to even consider using.

I have found a few that have no choice but to work if they were only put together and timed properly. I don't want to mention them or what is needed to change them because I don't want them kept from being produced. I am trying to sell all the property's I own so that I can fund the production of enough to get the ball rolling.

All I will say is that I am glad that we do have away to change things for the better for all mankind and not just a hand full like our governments makes it better for.

Omnibus

Quote from: nightlife on November 11, 2007, 08:54:04 PM
Omnibus, xpenzif's idea is not one that I considered do to the lack of power it would create.

I posted a design I had for a pulse motor but I later found that some have already been built. I then deleted my what I posted hoping that no one was able to fill in the blanks I left untold. I did that because it is obvious that we have people out there keeping these inventions from hitting the market for everyday people to use.

Since then, I have looked to see what others have been working on and found that the only ones we hear about are those that have failed and or can not produce enough power for us to even consider using.

I have found a few that have no choice but to work if they were only put together and timed properly. I don't want to mention them or what is needed to change them because I don't want them kept from being produced. I am trying to sell all the property's I own so that I can fund the production of enough to get the ball rolling.

All I will say is that I am glad that we do have away to change things for the better for all mankind and not just a hand full like our governments makes it better for.
Well, good luck to you. So far I have only heard promises in that practical aspect you mention. As for me all that matters is the scientific aspect of this problem (once Science is good practice will inevitably follow) and so far I haven't seen anything better in this respect than @xpenzif's.

nightlife

 Something else is the fact that I cant be the only to one figure out the things I have. It was to simple to figure out. The problem I have found are that everyone of the motors I have seen fail because the inventor cant get passed the gates. It is to simple to get through them but yet no one seems to have one. Is this some kind of joke? Is the average that naive?

I am a POS 9th grade drop out and there is no way that I can be the only one to figure out how to get passed the gates. I will admit I am 41 years old with 25 years in the auto repair business but there are top scientist that say it is impossible. Why? It must be because they are made not to disclose their findings. I don't really know why but I do not want to take the chance of anyone keeping what I have learned from the people who need it most.
Every time I figure one out, I right it down and give it to a different person to put up incase something happens to me. If something should happen to me, they have orders to open the envelopes and do as instructed in them.

Be assured that some day soon, the truth will come out and a new energy source will be provided at a very inexpensive cost for all.

linda933

"I have personally came across a few that can work if they just changed and or added a couple things. You all would not believe how close a couple of these members are to achieving over unity using just permanent magnets. I have figured out a way to achieve over unity using electronic magnets and now thanks to a few others here, I now can do it using permanent magnets."  ~ Nightlife


It is this kind of statement, which announces that something totally unprecedented and heretofore deemed impossible by the laws of science has been "figured out" (implying an actual proof, at least to self) yet offers no evidence, no explanation of the elusive key, no statement of what has been actually achieved and no details for potential replication...these are the very type of statements that engender the most vicious attacks.

When offering that you have achieved something amazing and totally unprecedented, it might be wise to offer it far more humbly as a "I think maybe...but have not yet proven it" or offer it with some good evidence and a clear statement of what you have actually achieved if it goes beyond just thinking in circles until you have convinced yourself it will work.

Why do people feel like attacking this sort of announcement?  Simple:  It's incredibly arrogant to make such claims in the face of the thousands of failed attempts over hundreds of years of effort.  Not only is it arrogant, it is getting to be very old around here.  So many claims!  Just read half the thread titles..."Successful this...Proof Positive of that...The Answer to this...The Solution to that"...yet, in reading and reviewing the actual materials, the promises of the titles never materialize.

I think the reason why so many good folks find themselves attacking the posts of others is the sheer arrogance that is displayed and the totally unsupported claims of astonishing achievements.  In the end, as far as I can tell after reading nearly everything here, no one has really done what they claim so arrogantly to have done. 

When so much honest effort over so many centuries by so many good people has brought forth so little in terms of actual useful results, it is indeed an insult to any thinking reader for someone to make claims to achieving what has previously been so elusive when the claimant offers nothing but the claim itself as evidence! 

I find the hundreds of false, premature and inaccurate claims made regarding overunity and free energy to be a huge and continuing insult to critical-thinking people and all genuine researchers. 

That's my opinion about why there is so much ridiculing and hostility made against many claimants and I feel it is totally justified when the claim is made arrogantly and without evidence or supporting material or even a clear statement of exactly what is being claimed.  It just irks the crap out of anyone with a smidgen of scientific methodology and critical thinking ability to hear such casual yet outlandish claims so often!

So...if you don't want to get your head torn off by critical skeptics, do your homework...most of scientific research involves showing exactly how the theoretical claim stands up under the most ferocious attacks (attacks meaning attempts to find fault with the claimant's science, not their personality). 

It is always the same numbskulls who make these casual and unsupported claims that always think they are being personally attacked when the first critical questions are asked!  If you look at the threads, the best of the hated debunkers always attack using straightforward and (to the claimant) extremely awkward, pointed questions.  That is 100% the object and method of scientific research!

It is invariably the casual arrogant claimant who then, rather than answering the hard question that will reveal his error, will begin a personal attack against the skeptic.  It happens time and time again.  Read through the posts where the toughest skeptics beam in with straight questions...you'll see it every time. 

The attitude here is that it is sacreligious to question claims and those who make them.  As long as that attitude exists, and the toughest skeptics are personally attacked or even banned for pounding the hard questions, this forum will not be doing science but rather will remain a private club for mutual delusion and egocentric circulation of false claims. 

Attacks using hard scientific method made against casual yet incredible and unsupported claims MUST be distinguished from personal attacks, as they are essential to the advancement of reality in science and engineering.  If you check it out, you'll find that the personal attacks always begin when the casual claimant, who is ego-involved with his delusion, refuses to accept the idea of applying simple scientific method and good quality testing and fights back by calling the skeptical enquirer an "oil-man" or a "worthless armchair detractor" or an "idiot" or something along those lines. 

Always, the person questioning the bad or absent science and/or inadequate methodology is attacked, excluded, insulted and, in the case of the best skeptics, banned as a "detractor".

Linda

billmehess