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Meyer type WFC - from design and fabrication to test and development.

Started by Farrah Day, November 22, 2007, 11:55:54 AM

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h20power

Hi, you wanted to see a step up voltage charge look at this video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RQNrFUnQmnw
I am still reading up on your testing on page 3 now :P

Farrah Day

Hi Dutch

I mainly posted it as I found it somewhat inspirational.  I do have one or two issues with the theories of operation suggested though.  Once sentence particularly concerns me:

QuoteI believe that some of the free electrons do take on a slightly positive charge,

What is meant by this is anyones guess as I don't think science will accept the fact that an electron could be come more negative or positive than it is.  The electron as far as I'm aware is a fundamental particle and as such of fixed value.  It think it would be wrong to think that the electron could have a variable charge.

But, having said that, like Meyer, you don't necessarily have to understand the science to make it work!
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

dutchy1966

Quote from: Farrah Day on February 24, 2008, 04:59:43 AM
Hi Dutch

I mainly posted it as I found it somewhat inspirational.  I do have one or two issues with the theories of operation suggested though.  Once sentence particularly concerns me:

QuoteI believe that some of the free electrons do take on a slightly positive charge,

What is meant by this is anyones guess as I don't think science will accept the fact that an electron could be come more negative or positive than it is.  The electron as far as I'm aware is a fundamental particle and as such of fixed value.  It think it would be wrong to think that the electron could have a variable charge.

But, having said that, like Meyer, you don't necessarily have to understand the science to make it work!

That phrase certainly makes some people raise their eyebrows..... I think it is like Able says himself, he doesn't have the scientific background to put all he found in the right words. The main things i see in his findings is the possible relationship with Puharichs work (did Meyer really copy and extend his work???) and do the audio frequencies generated by the alternator really make a big difference in the production of the gases.

Do you have any info to get in touch with Able somehow and see if we can get some more specific info? What I really would like to see is what happens when the audio signals get filtered out before reaching the cell. Will the gas production drop significantly? If so we have an important clue as to what really needs to happen in the WFC.   

Gonna dig up some more Puharich stuff and see if I can get to the same conclusions as Able has done....

regards

Robert

h20power

Okay I read all the post and feel that I might be able to aid some. I will first say I do not know all of Meyer/Dingle technology through and through. But the one thing I did is to replace the blocking diode with a voltage multiplier. I every post I have every read on Meyer type technology I have never read that someone was able to raise or lower the voltage independently of the frequency or has anyone ever pumped the water through the cells. I have designed a WFC that is totally isolated and all electricity has no choice but to go through the tubes. I have also made a circuit that can raise and lower the voltage independently, though on that one I had a lot of help. The circuit will produce three phases, since I desided to go back and take another look at Meyer's work.

Also I don't hear anyone talking about the skin effect of the wires too be used. This part is very new too me but I will be making some coils that look pretty much like Meyers. The chokes will be of 16 gauge wire, to take advantage of the skin effect. Dr. Daniel Dingle is still alive but not talking to anyone it seems. The one thing I do know about this technology is that greed is it's worst enemy. Most fail to see just how big the opposition is too this technology. Once they posted some of Dr. Dingles work, but it has been removed now, and I saw just how close it was to Meyers technology. So I combined the two in the hopes that I too can become energy independent, don't worry if I get it working I will make a how too pdf. and post it.

The WFC design has all the needed stuff in it as far as I can tell, a constant water level, water flowing through the tubes, voltage isolation, and auto filling of the water. I have to build the WFC first so I can match the chokes too it's capacitance. I still have a lot of testing too be done so lots of trial and error I am sure. But I seem to be alone in this type of thinking when talking about Meyer technology. Plus another thing I see is that a lot of people get Meyers air conditioner mixed up with his water fuel capacitor. The air conditioner is not even Meyer's work someone else created it and Meyer took it as his own. But he is pulling electrons from the incoming air or air intake system not the WFC.

I like you get upset when talking to stupids, but everyone should have a voice, for that part of this technology might just come from some of these unexpected sources. So in that I have learned to be open in a way, still working on my temper ;).

One thing I do know is we are running out of time to get this technology up and running. America is soon coming to an end once this North American Union is formed in 2010. All of these wars for oil have too be stopped, for America will sink into a depression if we keep this up.Ã, 

This is my latest WFC design I will hold out on the circuit until tested so no one gets mad at me if it doesn't work.

Farrah Day

Hi H2O

Nothing wrong with people voicing their opinions, but often opinions would carry a lot more weight if a little thought or research was behind them.  While various differing opinions can be justified by the grey areas in our understanding, other things are clearly black or white. Hence, in some cases an opinion can be clearly wrong or right.

I just wish that more people would give it a little thought and do some proper research on the given subject before they jump in feet first!

Dutch

I don't know how to get in touch with the guy... is that his name, 'Able'? I hadn't noticed.

Puharich's work is far more scientifically documented than anything I have ever read of Meyers.  Puharich was a genuine scientist and unlike Meyer, backed his work up with relevant calculations and the resulting figures. Puharich's experiments came a good time before Meyer's, yet Meyer's wfc diagram is almost identical to Puharich's.

The Puharich document makes a lot more sense to read than Meyers as there is no psuedotechnical jargon to make it look impressive - that however, is just my opinion! ;)
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"