Meyer type WFC - from design and fabrication to test and development.

[Farrah Day]

Hi Dutch, I see you've been hassled into removing the link to that website.

After my initial praise for his posting, I too have has some personal emails from this chappie - turns out that he's got a serious attitude problem and is in fact a quite unpleasant, prize numpty.

It seems that one minute it is 'spread the word brother, now you take it to the next stage, the next minute he wants everyone to retract posts and links because he now wants to sell the info.  I brought peoples attention to his post as I found it somewhat inspirational, not because it was breakthrough stuff - I certainly found nothing there worth paying for.  With no accurate gas, voltage, current and power measurements of any kind provided it really is anyones guess as to what production he was actually getting, afterall what looked like a lot of gas to him might not to us. In reality, without any figures it's meaningless!  So, irrespective of the fact that his theory and explanations have to be taken with a pinch of salt, to be quite honest there is nothing he stated that we have not seen before. 

Anyway he's really pissed off with anyone that asked the wrong questions or questioned his theory. Apparently now he's going to build another unit and sell it on ebay for big bucks!  So, keep your eye open for that 

In his own words: In Memory of: Stanley Meyer, "Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition"

http://www.helium.com/tm/857077/turning-water-fuelthe-process

[dutchy1966]

Hi Farrah,

I see what you're saying.....

What I still wonder is if there is any proof out there of Stanley operating his WFC (with equal HHO production) where he DOES NOT use an alternator?
It seems like the dune buggy has the motor/alternator combo on board. So was he never able to actually run without the alternator?

Anyone got any proof either way?

Robert

[NofearofdaMIB]

 Actually I still correspond with a lot of people Fairy Day, just not you, or people like you. You are a blowhard, and have littleman syndrome hence your giant cell tubes. You are an uppity and pompous little scrote, and you abrade people with your rude and callous attitude. And I for one will not tolerate it. The fact is neither myself or anyone else owe you a damned thing, yet you come off as a demanding little troll. Well let me tell you something son, I can learn to do anything you can, not in a million years can you learn to do what I can. Education is a poor substitute for intelligence, and ignorance is no excuse for a poor attitude. As I've made clear to 90% of the people contacting me, they can feel free to do so, and I will help in anyway I can. But this isn't a relationship honey, so I don't have to forgive bad behavior. And I never claimed to have any new information, just information that I had found and put together for my purposes, and decided to share it after shelving it for a while. If you had known this information about the alternator then why hadn't you shared it? Quite simply because I hadn't told you yet. So it was new to you.Hence, Blowhard. From a lot of your postings on every forum you start trouble on, I can see you have little to no experience with ICE's, and I doubt you have done one bit of investigating to uncover the truth behind the WFC and instead jumped in with both feet building one. As impressive as your cell may look you have already defeated the fundamental designs purpose by not building it like Stan's. Don't get your superior education all caught up in a bunch with your knickers when you fall short of success. The fact that you didn't follow his design, and didn't bother to educate yourself about the very components involved in the whole process tells me that you rely only on your "education", and not your intelligence and very minimal wit. Therefore when you find yourself at the limits of your educational prowess in a short time and can progress no further, your bullish pride and degreed ego won't allow you to ask for help or input. In a couple of months when you get bored you can fill your cell up with some purple water and make a pretty bubbly machine out of it. And leave the real studies up to the gearheads and people interested in the technology, not the BS arguments enjoyed by petulant little boys. So grow up and quit picking fights over the internet.  And yes if I build a working model, I will sell it on ebay. Why shouldn't I if I have to go to the extent of contracting the electronics out to someone that can do it. In the meantime I've given it freely in the hopes that someone will build it. What have you offered, your limited abilities and curt attitude? So if you guys want to figure out how to do it, I suggest you first start finding people in your area that are working on cells and start a club. Meet in groups, and bounce ideas off of one another. You don't need the ALT. if you can create an AM signal to put onto the wire with the voltage by some other means. Farrah Day(putz) said that an AM signal comes from AC, and that since it is DC it is more like FM. Maybe that is true, but since the signal originates from an AC source I can only assume it stays an AM frequency regardless of conversion to DC at the diodes in the ALT. since you are only capable of hearing it on the AM bands of your radio. I have been looking for info to see if some newer type AC Delco alternators have some kind of RF filter or suppressor built in because some people can't get a signal from them. But if there are any questions regarding the possibility of Stan Meyer using the AM frequencies from the alternator in conjunction with the voltage supplied from it, or have general questions regarding the fact that Stan has never ran the car without that alternator nearby, or even questions why the video of them running the buggy in his driveway shows the ALT/motor combo but the signal generator appears to be absent from the picture, you can ask Farrah Day. As he said this is all old news to him.
http://ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=158.0  and this link will take you to a nice newspaper article that was found, if you are like me you will spend more time looking at the pictures than reading it. A couple of interesting points are that the coil and distributor are still present meaning that either the spark plugs are still installed, or that his injector system uses the same wires to power them. And even though it says that his injector system is installed he is still using the WFC to power the car. Another especially wonderful tidbit, is that the names Charlie Holbrook, and Stan Graumlich are listed, although the L is hard to see I took the liberty of searching using  L,R,W, and there is a Stan Graumlich 92, and a Charles Holbrook both still living in Washington Court House, Ohio. 25 miles from Grove city. And that is important because of this http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/07/08/hydroman.ART_ART_07-08-07_A1_4V77MOK.html?print=yes 

And at the bottom of that article you will find this little paragraph:

"And what became of the dune buggy that captivated a community for at least a few years?
A longtime friend of Meyer's, who doesn't want to be named because he fears that people will bother him about the invention, led a reporter to the basement of a property south of Columbus recently.
"I really shouldn't be showing you this," he said.
After passing through several darkened rooms scattered with computers and electrical equipment, he opened a door. In the far corner of a garage sat the buggy, its leather seats cracked, its engine partially covered with a cloth.
A decal on the bright red paint declares: "Jesus Christ is Lord."
Then the man quickly led the way out. Lights went dark. Doors clicked shut.
In his front yard, he sat on a lawn chair and sipped fruit punch. He watched the cars and trucks drive by on the road, burning gasoline."
Copyright ? 2008, The Columbus Dispatch

If Stan were as paranoid as we are led to believe, and as we ourselves would be , then I would suspect the only friend close enough would have been one of the two gentlemen in the picture from the newspaper article. But once again that "old" news should be checked with Farrah Day. In case the dune buggy were recently moved to his garage.

Good luck people.
Able Morley 

[h20power]

Just for you FYI Stanley Meyer converted a Corvett, and a small plane to also run on water. My design looks different than Meyer's yes, but in it gutts it's the same. I just made a lot of improvments to the whole concept as I uderstand it. I am having trouble with the coils but in time testing will solve the problems I'm sure. Once I can get the effect and start to understand it more I will try for the injector. The injector has too be timed very well from the amount of water that needs to be push through it and much much more.

The thing I see most people having problems with is when Stanley Meyer talked about the KISS method. That is totally based on the person, for if say Sir Issac Newton found something too be easy, would most likely be very hard for the rest of us, if not imposible.

I mysefl had too go back too Meyers earlyer works and try those, for he was just too kryptic with the injectors. All I can do is try, and not try to make money off of the technology for it is ment for the whole of mankind to free us from oil and energy enslavement. The way I view this technology is a penny saved is a penny earned.

I just started adding in some of Dingle's work with the voltage mulipliers, it works very well so far, just have to get the rest of the circuit builts so I can control the voltage at will, like Meyers did( another something most following his work don't have).

NofearofdaMIB don't knock someone for trying it a different way, for the answer can come from any source for I think there is more than one way to skin this water cat. For even I am trying Daneil Dingel and Stanley Meyer technologies even mixing them. All one has too know is I got your back to energy independance if I get a working prototype, and I hope you have mine if you solve it, right? Anyway best of luck too us all for time is short if we want to stop the war with Iran, the North American Union, and New World Order.

[Farrah Day]

Well what can I say, another thread contaminated by a self important, total tosspot.

I guess I must have really gotten under his skin for him to justify such a long post!

Couldn't be bothered reading through Arsehole Morleys post, as I daresay it contains nothing but an extension of the vulgarities he personally emailed me.  No doubt his post above clearly says something about his IQ and illustrates to everyone that he is in fact not a very pleasant individual. Just another 'Muppet' to be ingnored!