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swhich permanent magnet on and off

Started by gaby de wilde, November 24, 2007, 12:42:21 PM

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CLaNZeR

Mounted on board and a small movie showing the movement.

Got a little play in the magnet stacks as you can see in the video has they are slanting a little. I might go mill some end caps out for them, to keep them squarer.



link to video

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-Layout.wmv

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Right your shout on this one Gaby so:

What distance should I place the two motors/magnets apart from each other, at the moment they are pretty close and fair bit of pressure to turn it by hand. Should they be further apart and hence turn easy?

Tried a piece of steel between them and at the distance they are it just ignores the steel. If I place a big bit of steel sheeting in there it does what expected as video below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-shielding.wmv

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Another quick one.

Have made the end caps for the magnet blocks and press fitted in a vice to get them nice and square, now solid as a rock now :)



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When I have a lot of pages open overunity wouldn't load and I get some problem with one of the advert servers. I've closed everything now. Sorry it took me so long.

Quote from: CLaNZeR on November 27, 2007, 11:19:28 AM
Right your shout on this one Gaby so:

What distance should I place the two motors/magnets apart from each other, at the moment they are pretty close and fair bit of pressure to turn it by hand. Should they be further apart and hence turn easy?

The right distance depends on the strength of the magnets and the flux capacitance of the shield. I have no idea how fast it can be made to work. I always keep the testatica device in mind, that was suppose to run very slowly.

QuoteTried a piece of steel between them and at the distance they are it just ignores the steel. If I place a big bit of steel sheeting in there it does what expected as video below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-shielding.wmv


Nice,
it's hard to see how much closer the shield sits to the primary side. It's the difference in flux that generates the effect.  The primary should induct flux into the shield while the secondary side does not.

It would be ideal to have a contraption where you can change the distances easy.

I think you should be able to feel and examine the effect using your hands. If anything will help getting it right that will be it.

I wish I could be of more assistance.

Maybe some related thoughts would be useful. Have a look at this idea.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-drawing
gabydewilde - magnetmotor drawing

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-theory
gabydewilde - magnetmotor theory

It's basically the same thing under an angle. This invention requires very exact speed control. The primary magnet would ideally be on an arm but I bet it will be interesting to try it using the shielding.

This doesn't have much to do with it but here is another idea
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1568.msg61642.html#msg61642

I'm also working at a SMOT and a magnetic pendulum design.

I'm sure you would want to build all of it  :D If cost is a problem let us hear ok?

anyway, keep up the good work :-)

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gaby de wilde

thinking of eddy currents etc I was just playing with adding the shield to the side of the magnet. This seems to give the same effect :)

Here is the theory:

The primary side only offers a north pole OR a south pole Or nothing at all. The secondary side offers both it's north and it's south pole Or just one of the 2. It means the primary side can only push or pull. But the secondary is pushing AND pulling at the same time. But like I said the primary can only push or pull! That means that if the secondary is doing 2 things those 2 things will need to translate back into one thing. Their sum is either a push or a pull. Adding up positive and negative numbers doesn't give us a higher figure :-) hahaha!!!

If this is true physicists will have to hide behind the sofa till the end of time? I have already begun making fun of them. But it turned out to be quite a good description so excuse my bad language.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/joe-goat-horse.pdf

I think it's a fun read. :-)
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