New high volume low voltage electrolysis from Linnard

[linnard]

Here is the published patent http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090152126
the zinc based system runs at below Faraday's limit of 1.23 volts.

[ResinRat2]

The best of luck to Linnard, I hope his technology spreads.

What would be a very useful offshoot of this technology would be a small reactor that fit into the motor compartment of an electric car (e.g. TeslaMotors Electric Sportscar) and charged the batteries while the car sat parked. Just keep adding water to the reactor, let sit for several hours, and the batteries would be charged.

A mobile electric car that could travel any range and no need for a plug-in electric socket. In combo with solar panels on the car's roof, this would be the ultimate in mobile electric technology.

Will I live to see the day? Put me on the waiting list.

[mscoffman]

The best of luck to Linnard, I hope his technology spreads.

What would be a very useful offshoot of this technology would be a small reactor that fit into the motor compartment of an electric car (e.g. TeslaMotors Electric Sportscar) and charged the batteries while the car sat parked. Just keep adding water to the reactor, let sit for several hours, and the batteries would be charged.

A mobile electric car that could travel any range and no need for a plug-in electric socket. In combo with solar panels on the car's roof, this would be the ultimate in mobile electric technology.

Will I live to see the day? Put me on the waiting list.

RR;

This gets closer daily....rather then putting water into anything
why not simply use a dehumidifier to condense water directly
from the air? (before MIB's can get their hands on the natural
isotopic deuterium in it.)

There is an air-engine being designed for that inexpensive Tata
Indian compressed air-car that has a external input burner, so
one could burn hydrogen in an intentionally designed external
combustion burner rather then in an internal combustion engine
which could have material issue consequences. Fuel cells, while
efficient and doable, remain affordable only in the longer term.

So...Just let the car sit, and it would fuel and recharge itself
courtesy of the Big Bang hydrogen isotopic ratios. Sounds
good to me too, I think I will do it, there are mutiple design
pathways too.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[ResinRat2]

Hi Mark,

I've seen the air dehumidifiers that condense the water and purify it. They need over a hundred watts of energy to run. Is there a very low voltage dehumidifier?

Still, putting water into a small reservoir under the hood is just like filling your windshield washer fluid or lead-acid battery cells; but no big-bang isotopes.

Does condensed water have deuterium? I never knew that, but it sounds resonable to me.

[Tacmatricx]

Hi All,

Long time no see

The dehumidifier idea is valid especially when using a peltier heat pump that can generate ice crystals from the moisture in the air... do a youtube search for "peltier".

It would not be needed in all honesty however as the most efficient way to convert Hydrogen into electricity would be via a fuel cell... The waste product from a fuel cell is... water.

This experiment looks interesting, however the addition of alkali to water lowers it's resistance meaning that you can produce gas at lower voltages. The real test is to produce gas at lower WATTAGE.

Wattage is what really counts... it is calculated by multiplying the voltage in volts and the current in amps (NOT milliamps).

Current is directly related to Ohms law which states that Current = Voltage / Resistance. Thus if you lower the resistance of the water (adding alkali) or increase the voltage to the electrodes... you increase the current. This makes the experiment appear to be more efficient if you monitor only the voltage while lowering the waters resistance. If you were to measure the current and work out the wattage, it may be the exact opposite.

Give it a test and let us know if it is actually using less wattage than standard electrolysis.

Cheers!