Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.

[Localjoe]

@grumpy

What other purpose than self running would you want the output of the controls hooked back to the input of the collector?

I mean i knew this one but i said nahhhh way to easy.. because as Bep said The resonate freq of the length of wire does change with length and gauge.
So how would one test with out them being wired together? Pulse the collectors and watch the scope on the control windings?  Thanks  for picking this discussion back up, So at least conscious debate can carry on.
                                                                                                                            Joe

[Grumpy]

@grumpy

What other purpose than self running would you want the output of the controls hooked back to the input of the collector?

I mean i knew this one but i said nahhhh way to easy.. because as Bep said The resonate freq of the length of wire does change with length and gauge.
So how would one test with out them being wired together? Pulse the collectors and watch the scope on the control windings?  Thanks  for picking this discussion back up, So at least conscious debate can carry on.
                                                                                                                            Joe

That's why I asked the question.

[EMdevices]

Just seeing gain on a scope would be a start.   But that most likely would be a voltage gain.  The TPU would have to be loaded down with a resistor and then see if you have POWER gain.  We can easily get voltage gain with a transformer, but not power gain.  Perhaps the TPU in it's simplest configuration is a PASSIVE device with no "mass electronics.. just a knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other.."  (quote from video by SM about his first small TPU)

EM

[Grumpy]

Just seeing gain on a scope would be a start.   But that most likely would be a voltage gain.  The TPU would have to be loaded down with a resistor and then see if you have POWER gain.  We can easily get voltage gain with a transformer, but not power gain.  Perhaps the TPU in it's simplest configuration is a PASSIVE device with no "mass electronics.. just a knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other.."  (quote from video by SM about his first small TPU)

EM

In SM's last video, he stated that the energy came from within the TPU itself - not from gravity or earth's magnetic field or electric towers or volcanoes or cosmic vortices - from within the device. 

[Localjoe]

@emdevices,
              So sticking with the passive design do you think its all copper or some steel wire and some copper wire?  Or i guess a secondary wire that has a good permability.  If this in consiquential dont mind me.  So from i have been testing with i just have a 6 to 8 turn copper colelctor its 14g instulated stranded copper, and i used single strand wire from a cat5 bundle to wind controls  i used the left hand rule for all of them and wired 3 in series equadistant apart 120 turns a peice.   Where would i put a resistor? on the output of the control windings or wired in series between the collector and controls?  And does this model have an iron toroid or just the wires.  Thanks for all input
                                                                                                                   Joe
           Edit: @Grumpy
                         Are you implying the power comes from a secondary transformer separate to that which we are talking about located within the device or in the center of it?  THis would make much more sense i guess to me but im probably wrong