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Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.

Started by dfro, November 26, 2007, 07:43:29 PM

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EMdevices

SM mentioned two types of waveforms:

1)  series of kicks

2) pure sinusoidal waveforms related harmonicaly (1, 2nd, 3rd, etc..)


By Fourier Analysis we can show that they are one and the SAME, albeit, if you use only 3 harmonics you get a truncated series that's not too bad, and represents a series of spikes pretty good.

What's interesting is what Libra has discovered in the other thread,  he uses only one pure frequency and gets DC + AC output.   It's the DC that's revealing and quite interesting.

EM

wattsup

If you consider the time line of when SM talked about 1st and 2nd frequency, you will realize that at the same time, guys on the board were so adamant that the TPU had THREE stacked collectors without any actual proof. I always had the feeling he added saying  "and the third" only because of the apparent fervor of a three collector system idea on the board and his attempt to not tip the hand too much.

The main problem is we are taking everything SM said as isolated instances when in fact everything he said was in the progression of discussions by board members. He had both the intent to give some info but to not give info that only an insider would know so his information was floated between the discussions at the time.

2 frequencies provide three.
3 frequencies provide nine.

You should not need more than two frequencies so right away you're saving 33% of the present energy required to drive whatever.

I imagine SM is always asking himself why the hell he ever had to say the third because this is sending us on the wrong track. At the time, ideas were being shot all over the place like a truck without a steering wheel and I think most of what SM said was to try and keep the truck on the road while it was zig-zagging at high speed.

So there is what he said and there is the context in which he said it. Probably understanding the context will be more valuable then what he said.

EMdevices

good point about the context wattsup,  we definitely need to keep that in mind.
EM

Grumpy

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Dansway

Quote62. Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.  But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.  There need to be three of them all the way around.  Start them up one at a time each.  First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.

63. When you eventually strike the cord look out.  You will know what has happened at that point.  In the mean time you can measure a slight output even if you do not strike the exact cord.

64. In many of our designs we use three coils as the collector.  They can be run parallel to give higher current lower voltage output at excitation. They can be run in series to create high voltage, lower current when reaching the point of excitation.  We have used other multiples of run of wire as well in various units contruction.

65. Most of the successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.  They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.  They were run in multiple segments.  Each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillation and control.

We don't really know how to build the TPU coils (collector).  SM never gave us a schem of HOW the coils are made.
Until we know this, we are shooting in the dark.

Regards,

~Dan