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Gravity, Magnetism, and BFOs, to power the TPU?

Started by EMdevices, December 10, 2007, 03:53:17 PM

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EMdevices

Good points Darren, especialy the open vs closed end.Ã,  It doesn't matter what's at that end in the initial time when the information (voltag and current) havent' reached the end, but in steady state it surely matters.

@sparks
Quote...The trillion dollar question is why do the electrons migrate from the inner axle (less energetic)Ã,  to the outside diameter of the copper rotor (most energetic) through a brush contacting the outer diameter, through and external load, and back to the axle.Ã,  What force is at work moving the electrons from the axle to the brush within the rotor?..

it's the Lorentz electromotive force due to motion of a conductor through a magnetic field (F = q v x B).Ã, Ã,  At least that's how it's explained.Ã, Ã,  And when the magnet is fixed to the disc and rotating, it's still the same thing.Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Magnetic fields seem to be attached to space when spun in axialy symetric ways, so they don't realy rotate.Ã,  Ã,  That's my take on it, and I heard the other more exotic explanations from the Indian guy what ever his name was.

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sparks

  I studied the Lorenz principle and how it was applicable to the Unipolar generator and really didn't
see how it worked, especially when the magnets were part of the rotor.  I did note however that the electrons would be forced to align themselves with the permeating magnetic field due to the bipolar moments of electrons in the rotor,  reacting with the magnetic field.  This ordering of the electrons and the mechanical rotation of the whole rotor results in a substantial energy imbalance between the axle and the outer diameter of the rotor.  The magnetic field doesn't allow the energy from balancing itself within the spinning rotor (unlike when the magnets aren't present).  When an external circuit is constructed outside the influence of the magnetic field, (between the rotor axle and the rotor outside diameter) the energy flows.  The attraction of energy by the outer part of the rotor is stronger than the ability of the magnetic field to contain the lower order of energy in the axle and id area of the rotor,  Again I will state what I believe is the force at work here and in the tpu:  The More Ordered Energy Becomes The More Energy it will Attract.  I don't know if this is a new law of physics or not.  I'll just refer to it as Sparkonian physics for now unless someone else has come up with this before.   I am working on a web page about sparkonian physics  which will use illustrations of the sparkonian law of physics.
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Grumpy

Doesn't the edge of the rotor move faster than the axle?

Also, don't electrons move according to a potential?
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sparks

Quote from: Grumpy on December 16, 2007, 11:23:31 PM
Doesn't the edge of the rotor move faster than the axle?

Also, don't electrons move according to a potential?


The electrons move from the edge through the load and then to the axle.  What is interesting here is what completes the flow from the axle to the outer edge.  The electrons near the outside diameter have more energy.  They are moving faster than the electrons in the axle.  Yet the current flows from the lower state of energy through the plate to the higher state and it does it independent of the input power.  I believe what we call positive electrical potential (protonic charge) is just an energy state where there exists more concentrated quonta.  The proton of the atomic neucleus has much more energy in a more organized state therefore exhibits a gravitational field which entraps the electrons.  Positive and negative electrical charges are just another expression of gravitational influence between systems of energy.  The energy concentrated in the outer diameter of the rotor exhibits gravitational influence over the electrons entering the system at the axle because it is a more concentrated and ordered an energy system than the electrons goofing around inside the axle.
The positive gravity is enough to drag electrons through magnetic lines of force.  I believe the same thing happens on the i.d. of the tpu.  + gravity in the collector circuit is created by electronic circulation within the collector windings.  The attractive principle causes the energy in the inside diameter of the tpu to first bend the magnetic lines around it then pop through these lines as it is attracted by the + gravity created by the electron flow in the o.d. of the collector windings.  It enters the energetic orbital flow inside the collector windings and strenghthens both the + gravity and the magnetic field size.  I guess what I am trying to say is that gravity and electrical potential is the same thing.  It all has to do with how much energy is trapped in an area defined by a magnetic structuring.  Magnetism is what happens when vectored or black energy meets round or vortex energy. Neither energy form able to convert into one another so they change their behaviours in reaction to each other.  Magnetism is an influence arising from the ordering of vectored energy while gravity is an influence arising from the ordering of vortex energy.  The universe itself just the dance these two forms of energy happen to be doing.
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@ Sparks
"The More Ordered Energy Becomes The More Energy it will Attract.  I don't know if this is a new law of physics or not.  I'll just refer to it as Sparkonian physics for now unless someone else has come up with this before.   I am working on a web page about sparkonian physics  which will use illustrations of the sparkonian law of physics. "

You hit the nail on the head man....   I propose Calling it the LAW OF ORDER

Alright Great example of order .... take your finger in a bucket of water start moving it in a circle... if you do it right and around the same imaginary circle each time a vortex forms swirling the water around on its own.. if you move your finger in an erratic pattern not that of the original circle you brought it in it is much harder to get a vortex in water..

Just try it... If anything is right ...  It is "The law of order"... ha not law and order  Grin

  Tesla states quite clearly that when synchronous discharge happens the voltage levels in the secondary coil rises exponentially meaning if it was done asynchronous or not pulsed a a set interval it would not work half as good or show any real results... Just like my water example .. I mean no one wants to listen to a musician who cant keep time .

So my conclusion is that "If Energy is provided symmetrically at a given and repeated interval, additional energy can be gained in a system-Ordered Energy". These are my words and they seem to fit as crazy at that sounds. This touches on two interesting area's.. how energy becomes ordered or is given order, and the law of attraction so now ... going out on a limb could one say" A set of equations and ratios might be derived to directly correlate ordered energy needed to give favorable  conditions for law of attraction energy gains".  Some musicians who keep time very well are a band called Tower of Power...In your face funk   
                                                                                                                                                                       Joe
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..