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HHO vehical / law of conservation

Started by farleft, December 15, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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@Creativity,

OK Joe!

Widgets what I was talking about are well known facts.
We can figure out what is going on inside engines. We also, I guess, can figure out what
gravity really is and why clouds don't fall and why lifters are working. For sure...

The mere very question -in the event- is: why are these thingies not still used by car
companies? Is the price of oil still too low?  Or, as you stated ,"It is simply not
economical to innovate in this well established industry
" ?

I don't give a screwing dam about these f' deadly "well established industries" that are
ruining our planet, burying (what remains of) our freedom and spoiling our health. Do  U?

Please note : In America you have the Statue of Liberty (a gift from France, BTW  :'() not he Statue of Freedom!

Benito Mussolini (ask Google if needed!) stated that:"Fascism should rather be called
corporatism as, in fact, it constitutes the integration of the powers of the state and
the powers of the market".
Sorry for my English, I do not have this quote in this language and this is my own translation.
RU you a crypto-fascist?

Most of us, here, are talking about/looking for free NRG and not 'official' grid plugged,
people controlling electric 'power'.

BTW: Why are 'they' adding lead in fuel (and, BTW fluoride in our water supply)?
Are you aware of the Pogue carburetor history?

Come on.... Young person. Please quit your school books.

Le bonjour vous va.

Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Creativity

 ;D hey man chillout  :) i am not attacking anyone nor defending noone.I just bring some calculations and knowlegde that can be used by others here if they wish.I try to bring some systematic approach in our research to make some collective progress.I don't agree with manufacturers about innovation tempo they apply,but i understand the business is all about the money so we have to do the innovation ourselfs.
Blues it through your outstanding life,leaving more than just footsteps behind (1999 B-stok by me).

By being intensively responsive to what others say,i do run a risk: I open myself up to the opinions of others.i will,at times, have a great understanding for their opinion.Sometimes,i will even change my own opinion because i realize that the other person is right.This "risk" i do not run if i am unresponsive to what others say.

Creativity

Blues it through your outstanding life,leaving more than just footsteps behind (1999 B-stok by me).

By being intensively responsive to what others say,i do run a risk: I open myself up to the opinions of others.i will,at times, have a great understanding for their opinion.Sometimes,i will even change my own opinion because i realize that the other person is right.This "risk" i do not run if i am unresponsive to what others say.

Paul-R

Quote from: farleft on December 15, 2007, 10:25:17 PM
In respects to the law of conservation?
  But using HHO to supplement an IC engine produces seeming substantial results.  How?  If the amount of gasoline used is the difference of power needed to produce HHO and drive vehicle and the power generated by burning the HHO.
HHO is a trademark, but hydroxy gas combinations generated by Boyce electrolysers are not straightforward combinations of H2 and O2. It is a different gas situation, and must be used immediately or they will revert to ordinary H2 and O2. The energy equations are complex because the driving electronics, the PWM3-G board has a toroid with complicated windings, generating more power
than it consumes to fracture the water rather than electrolyse it (using the John Worrell Keely
frequency of 42.8 khz). Check out the workingwatercar YahooGroup.
Paul.

Zolar1

Many techies try to surgically dissect how the Hydrogen and oxygen work to improve fuel economy. Many talk about added entropy.

But NONE of them talk about the fact that you are burning something other than fossil fuel nor the fact that you are putting something else (water) into the system when doing their computations.

Sure, it takes more energy that you get out of it, but just where do you add the fact that you are adding water to the system?

They crunch numbers like mad, but still do not account for the added entropy to the system efficiency nor that water takes up volume in the cylinder thus causing more force on the piston when the mixture is burned.

Also, if "Hydroxy" implodes, then how come it doesn't pull the cylinder upwards instead of downwards like fossil fuel does when it expands when burning??