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Testatika, TPU, MEG, etc. amplification principle theory

Started by f_dyne, December 23, 2007, 02:56:33 PM

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Quote from: f_dyne on July 27, 2009, 02:18:21 PM
One of the things I'm asking myself is: is it possible to transform heat energy into electrical energy inside an ISOLATED system?
I don't see why that wouldn't be possible. It does not matter that the system is isolated since we could do something that internally acts in that system and does what we want.  What is information, energy, temperature or smell, eventually ?
Well, to state the essential: temperature occurs independent of the state in which the matter is. Temperature even occurs in solids, where a purely kinetic interpretation fails because each elementary particle is a carrier of a temperature. Expansion with increasing temperature actually happens because of the need for larger room for larger amplitude of oscillation. Hence for solids the thermal oscillation of size is primarily passed on by the electrons in the atomic hull (while for gases the entire atoms do this).

The second law of thermodynamics fails its claim to be absolute and at best reads: "with today's tech level we are not capable, to design a cyclic working machine that does nothing else then to withdraw heat from a heat container and to convert it into mechanical work".


Quote from: f_dyne on July 27, 2009, 02:18:21 PM
Moreover, electron is both particle and wave so: are we converting exactly from heat to mechanical energy only ?
How will the wave part enter into the enthropic balance ?
I do not concur with that view. Stating that the electron is both particle and wave is just like saying that 'that person is maybe good or evil'. The fact that the electron can have various ranges and that waves can actually roll-up to form electrons do not make the electron a dual-state particle. The 'wave part' is only valid when we talk about the creation of al electron (rolling-up waves), or it's destruction (i.e. over 511KV applied on the electron).

f_dyne

Quote from: Overmind on July 27, 2009, 02:39:06 PM
I don't see why that wouldn't be possible. It does not matter that the system is isolated since we could do something that internally acts in that system and does what we want.  What is information, energy, temperature or smell, eventually ?

We can consider all things as a form of energy.
After you quoted my sentence, I added the word "spontaneously".
The energy balance is not enough to produce energy, the process must be spontaneous.

Quote from: Overmind on July 27, 2009, 02:39:06 PM
I do not concur with that view. Stating that the electron is both particle and wave is just like saying that 'that person is maybe good or evil'. The fact that the electron can have various ranges and that waves can actually roll-up to form electrons do not make the electron a dual-state particle. The 'wave part' is only valid when we talk about the creation of al electron (rolling-up waves), or it's destruction (i.e. over 511KV applied on the electron).

It is a known fact that the electron is a particle and a wave at the same time, not only when it is created.
Unfortunately 'that person is maybe good or evil'  :(

F_dyne

Overmind

The electron only appears as wave because it envelops the core of the atom. That's why there's a limitation for the number of electrons per atom raw (Bohr model gets it's validation). Imagine a tennis ball. That's the first two electrons enveloping an atom core.

Niels Bohr in order to save his model of the atom was forced to annul the laws of physics with a postulate founded in arbitrariness.
Actually this state only exists for a very short time and then something unbelievable happens: the electron can't be distinguished as an individual particle anymore. "It is smeared over the electron orbit" do certain people say; "it possesses a dual nature" says Heisenberg. Besides the corpuscular nature the electron should in case of its "second nature" form a matter wave, "the position of the electron is to be looked at as a resonance which is the maximum of a probability density", do explain us de Broglie and Schrodinger.
These explanations can hardly convince. If the electron loses its particle nature in its second nature, then it also will lose its typical properties, like for instance its mass and its charge. but this is not the case.
The true explanation is that the electron opens its vortex center and takes the tiny protons and neutrons as atomic nucleus up into itself. The 'Bohr electron orbit' with that is not a path anymore, but is occupied by the whole particle as spherical shield/shell. This is confirmed by the not understood measurements exactly like the photos of individual atoms with the scanning electron microscope.
From here, if there are more electrons, we get the incompatible swirl direction. On a shell like this, not too many electrons have space. Because of the rotation of their own, the electron spin, they form a magnetic dipole moment, which leads to a magnetic attraction of two electrons if they put their spin axis antiparallelly.
As a frictionless rotating pair they form two half-shells of a sphere and with that occupy the innermost shell in the hull of an atom. If the positive charge of the nucleus is still not balanced with that, then other electrons is left only the possibility to form another shell. This is the true model of the atom (I described it as briefly as possible).
This model-state also can be mathematically confirmed if you derive the Klein-Gordon equation from the extended field ecuation (using a Schrodinger approach).

Anyway, getting back to the main issue, Temparature is just an oscilation of the elementary vortices.

Following the atomic view, in the case of heat it concerns kinetic energy of the molecules, which carry out more or less violent oscillations. In the case of gaseous materials with this concept actually successful calculations are possible, like for instance the speed distribution of gases won by Maxwell from theoretical considerations concerning probability.
But the attempt to apply the formulas of the kinetic theory of gases to solids and liquids only succeeds, if additional supplements and improvements are introduced. Since at all events it concerns temperature, thus the same physical quantity, of course also an uniform interpretation should be demanded, which in addition should stand in full accord to a design of a Total Theory.
Against the background of a new theory we should consider (since relativity is relative, therefore nullified for an objective standpoint), what happens, if for instance the local field strength is increased by a flying past particle. The matter located at this point is contracted for a short time. By coming closer to each other, the individual elementary vortices mutually reinforce their field and are further compressed. Sometime this process comes to a standstill, is reversed and swings back. At the same time every single particle, which in this way carries out an oscillation of size, has an effect on its neighbours with its field, to also stimulate these to the same oscillation, but delayed by some time. This phenomenon spreads in all directions. The propagation
only will become stationary, if all neighbouring elementary vortices pulsate with the same amplitude.

Also this thermodynamic state variable therefore is a result of the variable speed of light (VSL - this is another topic, but I can detail anything if necessary). At the absolute zero temperature no oscillations take place anymore, whereas the upper limit is infinite. Since the cause for temperature represents an oscillation of the local electromagnetic field strength around the cosmic field strength (the general cosmic field being what gives the current speed of light), the following phenomena must be considered as excitation and cause, as dictated by a new fundamental field equation: Electromagnetic waves are able to stimulate matter particles to synchronous oscillations of contraction by their alternating field. In doing so energy in form of heat is transferred to the particles, with the result that their temperature is increased.
So this is how we got temperature.
The wave is absorbed completely, if the thermal oscillation corresponds with the frequency of the wave (so we have the thermal radiation).
While the temperature describes only the amplitude of the oscillation of size, the thermal radiation is determined by both frequency and amplitude.

f_dyne

I think that many final theories can be made, all correct.
They should be all mutually correlable of course.
All of them must be able to calculate the exact value of known measurable physical constants.
Aside from this, I don't know how to calculate exact values of enthropy for Testatika-like systems yet.

F_dyne

Overmind

Quote from: f_dyne on July 27, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
I think that many final theories can be made, all correct.
Yes, but the problem is that they counter each other and they're even exclusive. In a lot of situations, it all depends on some interpretation of experimental data. That interpretation can be done so it will comply with many different theories.