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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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lanenal

In the worst case, even if something is patented, one can still make it for his own use -- just don't sell it -- this is what I thought about patent. Correct me if this is not the case.

OK, someone might control the neomagnet and put an exorbitant high price on it. But energy just can't be more expensive than now. Even if it is as expensive, at least this is clean. It can't be worse.

nul-points

Quote from: Tudi on May 13, 2011, 07:52:45 AM
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In some way most of the "new" devices use a spark gap, which is just a capacitor that breaks under the load( converted into a resistance ? )

Reviewed the drawings and i seen in the video that coil 1 is connected in series with coils 2, but in the PDF they are in paralel.
[...]
( 12 hours workslave in IT )
[...]

ok, i understand your coil ref now, thanks

interesting comment about spark gaps - caused me to question their effect:  possibly with some 'zener'-like characteristic - the current (spark) doesn't flow until the voltage has reached a certain level

so the result is 'all or nothing' getting transferred - no gradual build up, or decay, of current

amazing what guys around Tesla's & Marconi's time managed to achieve with a few bits of wires & magnets - considering all the 'junk' we have to hook together these days!  :)


...sentenced to 12 hours a day doing IT, eh?

you must have been a baaaaaad boy!  ;)


all the best
np


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Tudi

yes, the spark gaps, and the finetuning message from romerouk. If you finetune enough a spark gap it will break exactly at the top of the sine wave, causing the disturbance tesla was talking about, that noise type of thing. The type of thing ismael was trying to explain at some point about he's device. Harnessing only that perturbance would in theory leave you with an extra power ( in case you manage to convert back the sine wave from the output to input ). Ofc, this is just speculation.

about the spark gap : it's known to have a cooling effect around it. It's known to produce radiant energy. Radiant energy can build up a momentum according to testla. Romerouk's field buildup / colapse + radiant energy...let's make a SCIFI movie :D

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: lanenal on May 13, 2011, 08:11:12 AM
In the worst case, even if something is patented, one can still make it for his own use -- just don't sell it -- this is what I thought about patent. Correct me if this is not the case.

OK, someone might control the neomagnet and put an exorbitant high price on it. But energy just can't be more expensive than now. Even if it is as expensive, at least this is clean. It can't be worse.

Just as a sidenote, my local magnet supplier has just told me that the prices for raw neodymium have already drastically increased and that he soon must raise his end-prices by 300-400% (!!!) to adapt to that market increase.
But your argument is right, it can't be worse.

DadHav

Quote from: nul-points on May 13, 2011, 07:36:28 AM
John

you may be interested to see this Muller Gen replication - iirc claimed Cop is around 1.7 - some serious engineering has gone into this build!

  link --> http://home.mchsi.com/~actt2/index.html

photo of R. Classen's build below


[Edit: PS  please see my reply, above, to Tudi's comments about your video example re: motor running from cap, thanks]

cheers
np

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Wow, Yes I've seen things like this. Sometimes I think of them when I sit down at my little table in the basment and play around with magnets and coils. How lucky can you be to stumble on something they missed?
John H