Muller Dynamo

[yssuraxu_697]

Really? But if you do not have  "such spools", then flux from moving(!) magnets acts direct to coil wire, in coil turns will be induced opposite currents, half of coil turns produce negative, opposite half produces opposite emf,

Ok then add thick layer of 1,000,000,000 permeability material in addition, between coils and magnets. Then there will be no problem with currents at all

After that, when successfully lighting 1 red led (with 10W of total input power to system), go read original Muller papers about how the coils should be constructed

[konehead]

that 7 strand wire in photo is SOLDERABLE that means it is not proper motor-rated magnet wire, and is really only "hook up" wire with very thin coat of low-temperature varnish that a soldering iron can melt right through it.
Not a good idea for generator coils getting slammed with rotating meo magnets - the wire will chaff off its varnish pretty quick from the vibrations and any heat build-up in coils will melt wires together.

[nul-points]

@nul-points,

I know you’ve dealt the capacitor and stored energy issue several times but imho you are wrong because you want so much to believe the setup is real.
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Tinu

>> My main question is why the DC2DC converter is still powered for >40 long seconds (first OU movie), from switch off time (18m49s) to rotor spin down (19m30s)?!!!

ask someone who bought such a converter, to do a test with decreasing i/p if you'd rather believe it's a fake than what we've seen in the video - and the history behind this device - and all other Romero's work

ask them to report back to us blow the whistle IF / WHEN you find that your theory is correct


here's a couple of points for you to consider:-

1) Romero used the voltage switch on the DC converter to change the motor drive volts down to approx 4.5V then after a while back up to 12V - the rotor speed decreased, settled & then returned to previous in synch with his voltage selection

how the far canal did he do that, if his 15V supply was coming in on two wires hidden down his underpants?!?

2) if you follow the wiring from the video carefully (and Stefan, bless him actually had the perseverance to do this for the whole circuit - you don't remember? - or you haven't studied the thread fully?), you can clearly see that the switch which Romero uses to disconnect the generator from the cap/converter/motor system is connected between the combined generator FWBR o/p line & the capacitor (which is in parallel to the DC converter)

how do i know? - because i took the time to try & get my facts straight
(i don't always manage it - but i do try)

the reason why the information seems to change, which i try & share with people who seem to want to waste seriously interested members time, is because different people come up with different 'bl..dy stupid' ideas about why Romero has faked this

some of the same people seem to ask the same 'bl..dy stupid' question repeatedly, so i try & approach the answer from a different point of view, to see if that helps


3) my reference to the total energy in the cap really relates to the maximum amount of time which that energy COULD drive the motor AT THAT VOLTAGE - ie. to give the appearance of SUSTAINED operation

when the generator gets disconnected, the voltage on the cap just discharges as it gets used by whatever control the DC converter still retains

i don't suppose you looked closely enough at Romero's drive circuit to observe that IT ALSO CAN GENERATE VOLTAGE from the rotor magnets?  It may not be sufficient to make a big difference to the Drive action, but do YOU know what effect that generated voltage will have on the LED path in the DC converter?

do you know what the LED circuit IS insdide the DC generator?

do you think it might be a good idea to KNOW what the LED circuit is, before saying that Romero's device is probably a fake because the LED is on for 40 seconds?


4) you're obviously unhappy with the evidence of the 'suspended' device video

have you considered that Romero might have switched the DC converter to, say, the 4.5V setting just for that video to make it easier for him to carry the device around by one hand whilst he uses his other hand to carry both the camera and that 4-6V power supply (must be batteries!) which you think is powering the whole setup?


>> please refute me but based on facts

let me see if i've got the rules of this game straight:

you dream up the loopiest screnario for a fake i've ever heard, based entirely on an LED singing along to 40 seconds of the BeeGees 'Stayin Alive' and the different sound from the generator when Romero tries to walk around with it

and then you ask me to use facts to refute you?


nah - i don't think i'll bother ...oops, too late!


i hope you don't mind being teased? 
np


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[Thaelin]

Hi Stephan:
   Just did a test on my adapter. From a 12.5v batt, I get 11.92 out for the 12v seting, 9.06 for the 9.
When I use a batt reading 11.6 then I get a 11.02 output. From the look of it, the adapter will fall off even step with the input voltage minus its internal loss.

Hope that helps. No coils yet to play test with. Rotor done and finishing stator plates. Next to insert ferrite slugs and glue. Then wind the coils in place.

thay

[yssuraxu_697]

The fact that I can hear absolutely no rpm change with load is a puzzle and can only be attributed to excellent balance of a loaded generator with perfect cancellation.

Should there be something untold by romerouk then one of the topologies exibiting zero reaction to load is coil shorting. This was line of his previous experiments. But seems to me still that technique is not used in this setup.

...just to make point that there is nothing unseen in zero change of input.