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Muller Dynamo

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Bruce_TPU

#1825
May 22, 2011, 08:33:23 AM
Quote from: Thaelin on May 22, 2011, 05:27:04 AM
   Maiden motor run with one motor coil pair and one gen coil pair.

  Output is 13.5v after the FWBR. Coils are 3 strands of #30 for
300 turns for about 4.5 ohms total.

Found some D-FW79 SMC sensors that put out high going signal
and operate from 5v to 24v dc. Output voltage depends on input.
Triggers the Fet directly without additional circuit.

Soon as the tach gets here, will be able to give a rpm of it. Will
have all the coils and motor running then. Then I start the bias
part of it. Running right now in repulse mode but will switch when
ready

thay

Hi thay,

Is 13.5 volts open circuit or with a load?

Cheers,

Bruce

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

k4zep

#1826
May 22, 2011, 08:45:31 AM
Quote from: electr0n on May 22, 2011, 04:33:02 AM
Hi, someone mentioned rotor height adjustment earlier, heres what i did.
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/9404/rrotorheightadj01.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8135/rassembled02.jpg
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/6374/rassembled01.jpg
A s/steel bolt with the top machined to move the rotor shaft up and down.

Awesome work you guys, some amazing constructing/testing your doing :)

Awesome work indeed!  I'm looking at a mirror of mine except for the height adjustment!!!!  Wow.

Ben K4ZEP

maw2432

#1827
May 22, 2011, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: gyulasun on May 22, 2011, 08:27:11 AM
Hi Bill,

Trying to answer your first question.  Romero used a separate diode bridge for each of his generator coils, ok.  He did not connect the gen coils directly in groups like in series or parallel but he connected all the DC outputs of the individual diode bridges in parallel.  This is surely important once he did so and then this would involve as many AC-DC converters to use as the number gen coils dictate. 
Using the many diode bridges surely costs some loss in useful output power because of the forward voltage drops of the diodes and your idea to simplify sounds good of course.  However, if you study the input circuit topology of most AC-DC converters you would find their AC input includes diode bridges... in 99% of the cases I think. It is true that then it would involve only one (common) diode bridge.
Another issue to consider when trying to connect directly in series the generator coils (to use a single AC-DC converter for all of them) is the phase differences between the individual output voltages, it should be studied, otherwise you may have even bigger power loss than the diode bridges otherwise involve.

rgds,  Gyula
Gyula,   thanks for your answer.   So we need the FWBR's because the phase differences of each AC generator coil needs to be considered in capturing all of the AC power.  I guess a common diode bridge would not be able to handle the phase differences.   Is there a phase difference in the coil pairs that Romeo uses? (I believe the top and bottom coil pairs are in a series).

Thaelin

#1828
May 22, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
OOPS!   ::)

D-F79W is the right part number........
thay
   They certainly work good too.  Just ran up a single motor coil and output 20.7 volts. That is from a batt at 12.5v.


Quote from: conradelektro on May 22, 2011, 06:20:31 AM
@thay: I could not find the sensors you mentioned, could you please state a source?

Greetings, Conrad

Thaelin

#1829
May 22, 2011, 09:06:33 AM
   Bruce:
    Well now its 20.7 but yes with no load yet. Just woke up the neighbors upstairs so have to mellow out a bit. Need to find my car bulb and see what it does with that. 12v  .9a is its norm.

thay
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