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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: gauschor on May 07, 2011, 05:39:34 AM
Sorry to ask again, but this looks not clear to me: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284616#msg284616

I thought you'd only need to use 4 diodes like this: http://static.electro-tech-online.com/imgcache/1674-4_diodes_bridge_rectifier.jpg , therfore I dont understand what this square shaped box in the middle is  ???

The square shaped box symbolizes the 4 diodes you refer to in your second link.  You can clearly identify the AC inputs (~)  and DC outputs, just the diode symbols are not shown inside the box.  Clear?
It all shows that Romero used 4 more diodes, beside a full wave bridge, and the 4 diodes are connected parallel with the inside diodes.
This way a small decrease in forward voltage drop can be achieved for the 'compound' diode bridge so the power loss is decreased and mor power can reach the load.

Gyula

romerouk

Quote from: gauschor on May 07, 2011, 05:39:34 AM
Sorry to ask again, but this looks not clear to me: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284616#msg284616

I thought you'd only need to use 4 diodes like this: http://static.electro-tech-online.com/imgcache/1674-4_diodes_bridge_rectifier.jpg , therfore I dont understand what this square shaped box in the middle is  ???
The square is a bridge rectifier and diodes are making another rectifier in parallel.

Groundloop

Quote from: gauschor on May 07, 2011, 05:39:34 AM
Sorry to ask again, but this looks not clear to me: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284616#msg284616

I thought you'd only need to use 4 diodes like this: http://static.electro-tech-online.com/imgcache/1674-4_diodes_bridge_rectifier.jpg , therfore I dont understand what this square shaped box in the middle is  ???

@gauschor,

I think he first did use only the diode bridge. Then later on he added four 1N4007 to get two
diode bridges in parallel. He got more output that way. You can probably take both the bridge
and the 1N4007 away and use some fast Schottky diodes instead.

[Edit] Sorry, I did not see that there was posted answers to this already.

GL.

romerouk

Quote from: toranarod on May 07, 2011, 03:56:28 AM
with most of the design its a pulse motor of a kind. the one thing i am very interested in is the use of the Litz wire. having seen the wire in old style CRT TVs
most of my life. I was always wondering what it may be like in a pulse motor setup. very cleaver use of this wire.
I have no doubt the hole design is relevant to its function but I would not leave out the coil configuration as a major part of its parameters.
having trouble getting the wire here in Aus. the main industrial supplier don't carry it.
 
How much wire did you buy as an average to build the motor. how much should i order?
cheers
I had one kg reel.

toranarod

Quote from: Groundloop on May 07, 2011, 05:54:06 AM
@gauschor,

I think he first did use only the diode bridge. Then later on he added four 1N4007 to get two
diode bridges in parallel. He got more output that way. You can probably take both the bridge
and the 1N4007 away and use some fast Schottky diodes instead.

[Edit] Sorry, I did not see that there was posted answers to this already.

GL.

One great idea leads to another.
I have built a few Adams motors in my time But i must try this as a immediate response to this great discovery. It will be a few days while i get the materials together But I am keen to start Now so I thought I would test the 9 coils and 8 magnets ASAP so I am modifying one of my Adams motors. doing this now.