Muller Dynamo

[Pirate88179]

I find this video very controvertial : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5q47JJJAww . If this is true( and i read it in other places also). Then in theory if you have a pull motor and a push dynamo, you get over unity. You need to invest less energy to speed it up in motor mode then you consume as in dynamo mode.
I was thought that a magnet has a complete magnetic field, it takes equal amount of energy to get close or leave it's vecinity.

That video goes against my own experience and what I THINK I know.  Possibly it was the difference in the magnets themselves due to manufacturing tolerances?
Hard to find 2 magnets exactly the same.

Bill

[JouleSeeker]

Scarecrow and zerofossilfuels -- I very much enjoyed your discussion on Romero/Muller devices last week. 
The RomeroUK/Muller dynamo is a particularly interesting approach, given the videos of the device self-running.

There are reasons why a corporatist state would resist innovative developments; explained here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Emord/jonathan193.htm

"The corporatist state not only destroys free enterprise but it also expands enormously the corrupt influences of government and destroys individual rights to life, liberty, and property on a selective basis. While it ensures prosperity for corporate leaders, it simultaneously ensures the destruction of innovation. By reducing competition and making industry far more dependent on planned growth dictated by federal bureaucrats, it miscalculates consumer demand leading to avoidance of the best and highest uses, reduces the standard of living, and increases the cost of all goods and services. In short, it reduces everything that is above and fails to raise anything that is below. It stultifies the economy by encumbering the functioning of engines of innovation and by insulating leading firms, reducing the necessity for their investment in research and investment."

So one needs an innovative approach in releasing the invention to humanity in addition to engineering innovations. 
IOW, its not enough to enjoy developing an invention, if that innovation is soon suppressed in favor of BigOyl.

[bolt]

Attraction is always stronger in nature.  Unless you make a Gay Hamster Wheel:)

In attraction mode is Yin and Yang, North and South or male and female. The magnets do not lose there magnetism. In repulsion mode magnets lose their strength especially under extreme high frequency banging. You can kill a Neo within weeks or months in banging repulsion mode.

[wings]

Attraction is always stronger in nature.  Unless you make a Gay Hamster Wheel:)

In attraction mode is Yin and Yang, North and South or male and female. The magnets do not lose there magnetism. In repulsion mode magnets lose their strength especially under extreme high frequency banging. You can kill a Neo within weeks or months in banging repulsion mode.

yes :

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10716.msg288181#msg288181

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7982-muller-generator-replication-romerouk-10.html#post141710

[e2matrix]

@tanakat: Thank you for posting Romero's remarks (I overlooked them).

@Dave45: Thank you for posting the video. I am not sure I should believe what the person claims, but that is about what I want to do.

So far I was very confused about what to test and what to build. Now I want to go for the DC-motor idea (which is not my idea, many have tried before).

Attached see a drive circuit with a TI Launch Pad and a DC motor I just happen to have. It all can be run from a 2.4 - 3 Volt power supply (two AAA rechargeable batteries in series).

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MSP430_LaunchPad_(MSP-EXP430G2)

Fixing a disk to this DC-motor also solves my "bearings" and "sensor" concerns (no extra bearings, they are in the DC-motor, and no sensors).

Coils salvaged from 12 Volt relays will serve as generator coils, which should be more "identical" than self-wound coils.

I just want to see whether an uneven coil-magnet arrangement really has some advantages as far as reducing cogging and giving a decent output.

For harvesting the electricity from the generator coil pairs I will do as Romero did (independent full bridge rectifiers).

For closing the loop I have no idea yet, we will see, may be a 3 Volt Zener diode to clamp excess voltage down to 3 Volt (instead of the DC-DC converter Romeo used).

It will take some time, but at least I now have a plan (suitable to my skills and the stuff I already have).

Greetings, Conrad

Conrad,  I like your ideas and that Launchpad looks very cool especially for less than $5 but that 650 page user manual looks a bit daunting if you need to know all that to program it.  How difficult do you think it would be to program for the motor setup you propose?